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Old 03-12-2018, 02:24 AM
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For the JFK base, does reserve require coming in to the airport every day? Or is it more a mix of long an short call? Just depends on the season?

New to JB and used to live in CT. Considering going back to an area that's about a 1:45 drive from JFK in normal traffic. Or maybe White Plains or Stamford.
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For the JFK base, does reserve require coming in to the airport every day? Or is it more a mix of long an short call? Just depends on the season?

New to JB and used to live in CT. Considering going back to an area that's about a 1:45 drive from JFK in normal traffic. Or maybe White Plains or Stamford.

It is a 2 hour call out.
There is a long call system but you won’t see it much, it’s good in theory but never used.
There is no airport standby so you always stay home.
Summer will be busy while the fall is pretty much dead. Follow the school calendar and you will see when you will be busy.
Since you will be an FO and living in base it’s not a bad deal(better staffed) and you will most likely never go past guarantee pay wise so plan on that.
The game most guys play if they live far out is to let the CS call go to voicemail get in the car and start driving and call them back in 15 mins gives you a little more time.

Since this is APC I should say, did you know other real airlines with better everything have bases in the same area so try to go there.

But WELCOME if you need anything just ask someone will always help you.
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Old 03-12-2018, 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne View Post
It is a 2 hour call out.

There is a long call system but you won’t see it much, it’s good in theory but never used.

There is no airport standby so you always stay home.

Summer will be busy while the fall is pretty much dead. Follow the school calendar and you will see when you will be busy.

Since you will be an FO and living in base it’s not a bad deal(better staffed) and you will most likely never go past guarantee pay wise so plan on that.

The game most guys play if they live far out is to let the CS call go to voicemail get in the car and start driving and call them back in 15 mins gives you a little more time.



Since this is APC I should say, did you know other real airlines with better everything have bases in the same area so try to go there.



But WELCOME if you need anything just ask someone will always help you.


Thank you for providing real information before the obligatory second part of your post.

I’ll be wearing my lanyard with the rest of you.
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Old 03-12-2018, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne View Post
It is a 2 hour call out.
There is a long call system but you won’t see it much, it’s good in theory but never used.
There is no airport standby so you always stay home.
Summer will be busy while the fall is pretty much dead. Follow the school calendar and you will see when you will be busy.
Since you will be an FO and living in base it’s not a bad deal(better staffed) and you will most likely never go past guarantee pay wise so plan on that.
The game most guys play if they live far out is to let the CS call go to voicemail get in the car and start driving and call them back in 15 mins gives you a little more time.

Since this is APC I should say, did you know other real airlines with better everything have bases in the same area so try to go there.

But WELCOME if you need anything just ask someone will always help you.
Payne is absolutely correct.

Both AA and DL pay 35% more and don't have regional airline call out times like JB. The major airlines require you to report to the airport in a reasonable amount of time under normal driving conditions. CT would be no problem at all. At JB you will be stressing out to make your report time, all for the privilege of making less than a regional airline new hire.
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Originally Posted by atrdriver View Post
Payne is absolutely correct.

Both AA and DL pay 35% more and don't have regional airline call out times like JB. The major airlines require you to report to the airport in a reasonable amount of time under normal driving conditions. CT would be no problem at all. At JB you will be stressing out to make your report time, all for the privilege of making less than a regional airline new hire.

But to be fair it’s 2 hours traffic or not.
I don’t think you get dinged if there is traffic.
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But to be fair it’s 2 hours traffic or not.
I don’t think you get dinged if there is traffic.
Not sure what you mean.

Other airlines = no problem if there is traffic and it takes an abnormally long time.....say 3 1/2 hours.. to get to the airport.

JB = 2 hours. Subject to DP/CPO retaliation for taking any longer.
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Don’t ever leave your home or crashpad unless you have documentation of your assigned pairing such as a FLICA assignment or an email. Sometimes they call several people to see who gets there first and wins the trip. Loosers have to pay the $50 in tolls, fuel costs, time involved, etc. They should pay you a small amount if you don’t get the pairing but that’s after you jumped, and assuming they didn’t make a “documentation error” resulting in no pay for you.

If you get evidence of being assigned to a pairing and they cancel you, then it’s a broken pairing and the FOM obligations of a broken pairing apply.
By the way, you can no longer tax deduct the cost of your cell phones as an employer required business expense. JetBlue is not providing a company cell phone. You are subsidizing your employer while getting 40% less than your peers at the other major airlines.

The anti-employee dependability program applies if you don’t answer the phone (or if you don’t call back within 15? Mins).
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Don’t ever leave your home or crashpad unless you have documentation of your assigned pairing such as a FLICA assignment or an email. Sometimes they call several people to see who gets there first and wins the trip. Loosers have to pay the $50 in tolls, fuel costs, time involved, etc. They should pay you a small amount if you don’t get the pairing but that’s after you jumped, and assuming they didn’t make a “documentation error” resulting in no pay for you.

If you get evidence of being assigned to a pairing and they cancel you, then it’s a broken pairing and the FOM obligations of a broken pairing apply.
By the way, you can no longer tax deduct the cost of your cell phones as an employer required business expense. JetBlue is not providing a company cell phone. You are subsidizing your employer while getting 40% less than your peers at the other major airlines.

The anti-employee dependability program applies if you don’t answer the phone (or if you don’t call back within 15? Mins).
You were subsidizing your employer before, too, just the government (read: other taxpayers) was covering some of the cost.

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Originally Posted by atrdriver View Post
Not sure what you mean.

Other airlines = no problem if there is traffic and it takes an abnormally long time.....say 3 1/2 hours.. to get to the airport.

JB = 2 hours. Subject to DP/CPO retaliation for taking any longer.

Also, read the FOM carefully. If you get assigned to go to LGA, I think (?)you get 2+15. Use it. If they call and ask where you are if you’re enroute, even if you live across the street from LGA, your answer should be whatever the amount of time the FOM says. Don’t be an enabler because they will not help you on a different day. Good will is a one way street at BJ. Don’t do any favors for an employer that pays you 40% less and uses sophistacted legal work rule traps to exploit you.
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer View Post
You were subsidizing your employer before, too, just the government (read: other taxpayers) was covering some of the cost.

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True statement. I actually prefer not being able to tax deduct employer related expenses because it highlights our subsidies to our employer.

What law requires me to allow BJ to use my personal cell phone? Oh yeah, there isn’t one.

For the record, some aviation employers have always provided pilots company cellphones.
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