How far to live from JFK on reserve?
03-12-2018 | 06:31 AM
#11
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According to the Dependability Policy, you always get dinged. Read the FOM. There is no traffic exemption. I verified this with a CP. if they want to hang you with the DP, they can, regardless of what they “say”.
You above all.
You above all.
03-12-2018 | 06:35 AM
#12
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"Ok, just keep us updated on when you can get there".
No punishment or retaliation from the company.
I'm sure if you do it every single time you get called in you'll have some problems, but I've never once had an issue after getting stuck in traffic.
03-12-2018 | 06:50 AM
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Do you have proof of this? I've been on reserve for a year and live about 90 min from driveway to terminal entrance. Numerous times on 2hr calls I've hit rush hour traffic and called them letting them know.
"Ok, just keep us updated on when you can get there".
No punishment or retaliation from the company.
I'm sure if you do it every single time you get called in you'll have some problems, but I've never once had an issue after getting stuck in traffic.
"Ok, just keep us updated on when you can get there".
No punishment or retaliation from the company.
I'm sure if you do it every single time you get called in you'll have some problems, but I've never once had an issue after getting stuck in traffic.
Please stop being a company apologist. These anecdotal arguments based on personal experiences are not truthful.
03-12-2018 | 06:55 AM
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Do you have proof of this? I've been on reserve for a year and live about 90 min from driveway to terminal entrance. Numerous times on 2hr calls I've hit rush hour traffic and called them letting them know.
"Ok, just keep us updated on when you can get there".
No punishment or retaliation from the company.
I'm sure if you do it every single time you get called in you'll have some problems, but I've never once had an issue after getting stuck in traffic.
"Ok, just keep us updated on when you can get there".
No punishment or retaliation from the company.
I'm sure if you do it every single time you get called in you'll have some problems, but I've never once had an issue after getting stuck in traffic.
03-12-2018 | 07:05 AM
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STOP. That’s not the narrative we’re going for!!! If you’re 3 minutes late you get fired and publicly hung in the middle of T5..... the rules say you have 2 hours to report to JFK and 2.5 hours to LGA. In practice as long as you live within 1.5-2 hours drive you should be ok. You get an extra :15 by not immediately answering your phone so that could also help. If you are really running late you could always park in short term ($38 a day?) and save about 30 minutes. I was on reserve for over a year and live about 1:15 away. I probably cut it close once or twice. Our reserve rules are garbage and need to be improved, but if you can drive to work it’s livable. Also, in the slow months find a hobby because you NEVER fly. Hope this helps.
Since we don’t have access to the software’s source code, we don’t know if the app is logging anything else.
03-12-2018 | 07:13 AM
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STOP. That’s not the narrative we’re going for!!! If you’re 3 minutes late you get fired and publicly hung in the middle of T5..... the rules say you have 2 hours to report to JFK and 2.5 hours to LGA. In practice as long as you live within 1.5-2 hours drive you should be ok. You get an extra :15 by not immediately answering your phone so that could also help. If you are really running late you could always park in short term ($38 a day?) and save about 30 minutes. I was on reserve for over a year and live about 1:15 away. I probably cut it close once or twice. Our reserve rules are garbage and need to be improved, but if you can drive to work it’s livable. Also, in the slow months find a hobby because you NEVER fly. Hope this helps.
03-12-2018 | 07:20 AM
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Oh yes... “positive contact” is not explicitly defined in the FOM and has been the historical subject of “interpretation”, depending on who you are. I can’t say more but people can tell you in person.
03-12-2018 | 08:02 AM
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Whoa... I was told it was 2 hours from the first time they called you regardless if you answered. I never answer, I always call back with in 15 minutes if they're only giving me the 2 hours. However, Ive been on RSV for about 7 months and rarely do they give you 2 hours notice, you usually get more of a heads up. I think I've had 2 "hurry up and get to JFK" assignments in the past 7 months, both times they told me to park in short term and expense it.
03-12-2018 | 08:09 AM
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Whoa... I was told it was 2 hours from the first time they called you regardless if you answered. I never answer, I always call back with in 15 minutes if they're only giving me the 2 hours. However, Ive been on RSV for about 7 months and rarely do they give you 2 hours notice, you usually get more of a heads up. I think I've had 2 "hurry up and get to JFK" assignments in the past 7 months, both times they told me to park in short term and expense it.
03-12-2018 | 08:21 AM
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It’s not explicitly defined, but I too have heard and believed the clock starts from when THEY call you. So it’s 2+00 to JFK and 2+15 or 2+30 to LGA (not sure on LGA but it’s longer). I guess you can add 10 minutes for the app geolocation checkin too... again... not totally defined.
Back to your other point WE KNOW THE RULES ARE SUBJECT TO INTERPRETATION AND NOT EXPLICIT. That’s why we voted for a cba.
Even still while hopefully being clearer they will still be interpreted.....fly it and grieve it.
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