Of course i reject what they are saying. The FOM explicitly says otherwise.

The only thing i have a belief about is positive contact, which is not explicitly defined.

The policies are always written vaguely so it gets through people who don't place emphasis on detail while benefiting the company whenever it pleases them. A good contract leaves as little room for interpretation as possible. Like I've said before, I hope you guys don't vote for a substandard contract with vague, undefined clauses under excuses such as "it's our first contract". I guarantee you contract flaws are by design. Don't fall for it like previous generations have fallen for the falsehoods of the FOM. The FOM exists to pacify you under the facade of being rules. They are smoke and mirrors. They are not binding. Remember 3A.

I would prefer a highly detailed contract where each one of us can individually sue the employer. If you have a grievance process you've already lost because it ends in arbitration, which is not as good as individual lawsuits or class action lawsuits. Don't believe me? Look at where you are now....

 

Keep in mind, that check-in on our JETCRW app is geolocated, and if you plan on using company-paid parking at long term parking in lot 9, factor in up to another 30 minutes. We have a shuttle that runs from the lot to T5 every 30 minutes. And if you plan it right you can go from parking your car to walking into the terminal in 5 minutes. Miss that shuttle 1 minute, next airtrain may not be for 10 minutes, and those take 15-20 to get to T5. That 2hr commute just turned into 2:30. I’ve never had to call them and tell them I’m gonna be late so I can’t attest to getting dinged or not if your miss check-in. I live 0:30-1:30 east of JFK depending on traffic, and I’ve been given min callout once in 5 months on reserve. Your mileage may vary. Sometimes during day-trips if I’m gonna hit rush hour traffic I’ll go straight to the short term garage across from T5 and just walk over. But anything more than a daytrip and it gets veeeeery expensive.


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Do you pay Alpa dues because what they are going for and what you want are very different things. As to the rest you picked the right name Q. Just like the TV character you pop up out of nowhere and are completely annoying. And yes Payne fits me well.

 

Re positive contact, I NEVER. answer my phone when they call. I call them back 14 minutes after they call and tell them I’ll need a 2hr callout. It’s always been met with a show time of 2hr after I’ve sat on hold and CS picks up the phone. Maybe I’ve just been lucky, I doubt it, but maybe.

 

Same for me. That's how it's supposed to be done. Not our problem that we get put on hold for 30+ minutes cause scheduling is short-staffed. I'm under no obligation to check JetCRW or Flica at home to see my showtime unless it's an Irop Level 2. I also got placed back on short-call last month after they assigned me a trip and forgot to call a legal reserve that started 1 hour prior to me. Always call them back 15 mins after, take a look and make sure they assigned it to the correct person.This has been happening a lot more recently.

 

I pay ALPA dues because I have an irrational belief in their ultimate good intentions. They do require guidance every now and then.

Also, I am honored to annoy you.


You amuse me.

 

Jesus effin Christ, enough of this BS.

I'm a company apologist because I asked a question and shared what has happened to me on a number of occasions??

I drive to BOS. The Chelsea bridge is out of my control and more than once I've gotten there with plenty of time to spare, only to get delayed beyond my 2hr call because of it. I've had the same happen when an accident shut down the pike.

While I'm as annoyed as everyone else about our CBA situation, the company has never threatened me for giving them a heads up that my commute is at a standstill because of an accident, or the stupid bridge is up. If that's being an apologist then some of you guys are really living in a different world.

 

In a year on reserve I was called one time with a “how fast can you be there” trip. All other trips were assigned well in advance of the two hour time frame. Not saying that you’ll have the same experience but that was mine.

Also I will say that you may never know if you are “dinged” or not. I have one Out of Position on my record and no one ever said anything to me. Maybe I wasnt dinged on it but I’m sure I was and it just went into a file. Also keep in mind a dependability review is for several things. You could have X amount of sick call outs and pow one late show puts you over the line.

I am not a company apologist FUPM but I feel like even if you had a DR unless you are a turd that they want to get rid of for some other reason then you’ll come out of it with your job.

 

That's been my experience as well

 

Apologist is extreme.

My original point was that other airlines have written in their reserve rules a lot of leeway for reserves to report for their assignments. JB has written in very rigid reserve rules with a short call out time.

Just because you haven't been disciplined for being late doesn't change the fact that you CAN, whereas at other airlines in New York CANNOT discipline their pilots for taking 3-4 hours. Do you trust our management to be forever benevolent? Just trying to give the OP some context and let him know there may be a time where a CT commute is inadvisable at JB due to management actions and the same commute would be no sweat at AA/DL. We don't know when they will flip the switch. AA/DL can't flip the switch outside of negotiations.

Good luck and keep those apps updated.