1st/2nd year practical issues
05-07-2018 | 07:10 AM
#171
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What do delta A320/A321 pilots do that JetBlue A320/A321 pilots not do? If jetblue A320 pilots bring in more profit per flight than delta A320 pilots, and JetBlue can afford to pay us the same as delta’s airbus pilots and still remain profitable and competitive, why should we accept a dollar less? You still haven’t answered that.
05-07-2018 | 07:16 AM
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Alaska rates lag DAL A320 Family rates by a few months.
That is the difference between a 'world-wide carrier' and us.
Alaska lags SWA rates by few months which lag DAL rate by a couple of months.
IOW the rates are basically the same over a 5 year period. The timing of the step is the only difference between 'world-wide carrier' and the "airline(s)" like us.
05-07-2018 | 07:19 AM
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Your post putting Delta, etc "above" us was in direct response to a question about contract peers. Pay is a very significant component for contract comparison, so it's not "bias" to conclude that you're arguing that we shouldn't be paid as well as an airline that's "above" us. Might you one day take your own side in an argument?
05-07-2018 | 07:20 AM
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Oh please. You know what you said, and have said on here for years. Paraphrasing "If you disagree that we should get paid less, then you are engaging in groupthink! I only say we should get paid less to offer an alternative viewpoint! I don't wear my lanyard because my neck lacks a spine!"
05-07-2018 | 07:32 AM
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The average of delta’s A321, A320, and 737 rates are $271 an hour, going to $282 an hour in 7 months. The average of their CS100 and 717 rates are $250, going to $260 in 7 months. Their 110 seaters pay on average 8% less than their airbus, despite having 50+ fewer seats. And furthermore, their profit sharing payout was 15% of earnings—ours was what, 2%? Their 401k DC is also significantly higher. But let me guess, you’ll just happy to make $200 a month doing the same thing as they do, while making your overlords more money than those “worldwide” delta guys. Are you willing to work for less than them?
05-07-2018 | 07:49 AM
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I see ALPA April Contract Comparison and DAL at $263.XX until Jan 2019 and then a bump of 4% to $274.XX
05-07-2018 | 07:51 AM
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The average of delta’s A321, A320, and 737 rates are $271 an hour, going to $282 an hour in 7 months. The average of their CS100 and 717 rates are $250, going to $260 in 7 months. Their 110 seaters pay on average 8% less than their airbus, despite having 50+ fewer seats. And furthermore, their profit sharing payout was 15% of earnings—ours was what, 2%? Their 401k DC is also significantly higher. But let me guess, you’ll just happy to make $200 a month doing the same thing as they do, while making your overlords more money than those “worldwide” delta guys. Are you willing to work for less than them?
Flying. Most of their flying is airbuses. So what is southernerns argument again?
05-07-2018 | 07:52 AM
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Your post putting Delta, etc "above" us was in direct response to a question about contract peers. Pay is a very significant component for contract comparison, so it's not "bias" to conclude that you're arguing that we shouldn't be paid as well as an airline that's "above" us. Might you one day take your own side in an argument?
But in terms of what our "peers" are Alaska and SWA are closest. You're reading too much into that response.
05-07-2018 | 07:56 AM
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Oh please. You know what you said, and have said on here for years. Paraphrasing "If you disagree that we should get paid less, then you are engaging in groupthink! I only say we should get paid less to offer an alternative viewpoint! I don't wear my lanyard because my neck lacks a spine!"
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