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Old 05-06-2018 | 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jtrain609
Wrong side of the table, kiddo.
So he is one of those guys that works for ALPA and somehow manages to get a high paying management position after negotiations are complete? I have heard about them.
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Old 05-06-2018 | 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
We have more planes In the air at 0300 than fedex.


The Dominican at 0300 is rocking. JB party!!


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Old 05-06-2018 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
We have more planes In the air at 0300 than fedex.


That's only because our AM push out of Memphis doesn't even start till 0330 EST (0230 CST)... but still I get your point.....

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Old 05-06-2018 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
So he is one of those guys that works for ALPA and somehow manages to get a high paying management position after negotiations are complete? I have heard about them.
Yeah they made me the new VP of Flight Ops here for my ALPA negotiating work at my regional.
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Old 05-06-2018 | 07:08 AM
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How long is the orientation and training in Orlando? How long between training start and actually being on reserve?
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Old 05-06-2018 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by jtrain609
Yeah they made me the new VP of Flight Ops here for my ALPA negotiating work at my regional.
Hey, you are the one defending the amount of redeyes we fly.
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Old 05-06-2018 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
Hey, you are the one defending the amount of redeyes we fly.
Defends everything Blew
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Old 05-06-2018 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
Hey, you are the one defending the amount of redeyes we fly.
Did you grow up under power lines as a kid?
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Old 05-06-2018 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MatRdr13
How long is the orientation and training in Orlando? How long between training start and actually being on reserve?
Total initial footprint is about 2 months depending on breaks and how long it takes to get OE done. Then misery/reserve begins.

Separate question...why would you want to come to this dumpster fire? This place is a joke. If I could leave I would. If I had a crystal ball a few years ago I would have stayed at my regional. Man I thought this place would be awesome. And it seemed that way initially. I really wanted to hang my hat here and was proud to work here. Soaked up the blue juice initially. Now I hate it here and really wish I had never gotten the call for this place. I helped one of my buddies get on here not that long ago and I feel really bad about it now. Almost like pumping a stock that ends up losing one of your friends a lot of money. I tried to warn him before he started while he could still stay at his other airline, but the allure of a “major” airline was too much. I won’t write any more letters to help people out to come here, at least not until management makes a 180.

The worst part for me....I screwed my family by coming here. Pay, (lack of) time off, and my misery at home that carries over from trips here (usually after flying with juicers helping out the flailing operation), has had negative impacts on my family life. If it was just me, that’d be one thing. But I have a wife and kids who now suffer from the inept and greedy management at this place. I wish culture put food on my table, but unfortunately I can’t even use culture as toilet paper. Oh, and culture doesn’t even exist here anymore, so discussing culture bucks is moot.

Don’t come here...save yourself the physical, emotional, mental, and financial misery. It’s not worth it. Maybe it will be one day. Today is not the day. Even with a contract, this place will still have major issues, with a little bit of potential thrown in for good measure.
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Old 05-06-2018 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
Total initial footprint is about 2 months depending on breaks and how long it takes to get OE done. Then misery/reserve begins.

Separate question...why would you want to come to this dumpster fire? This place is a joke. If I could leave I would. If I had a crystal ball a few years ago I would have stayed at my regional. Man I thought this place would be awesome. And it seemed that way initially. I really wanted to hang my hat here and was proud to work here. Soaked up the blue juice initially. Now I hate it here and really wish I had never gotten the call for this place. I helped one of my buddies get on here not that long ago and I feel really bad about it now. Almost like pumping a stock that ends up losing one of your friends a lot of money. I tried to warn him before he started while he could still stay at his other airline, but the allure of a “major” airline was too much. I won’t write any more letters to help people out to come here, at least not until management makes a 180.

The worst part for me....I screwed my family by coming here. Pay, (lack of) time off, and my misery at home that carries over from trips here (usually after flying with juicers helping out the flailing operation), has had negative impacts on my family life. If it was just me, that’d be one thing. But I have a wife and kids who now suffer from the inept and greedy management at this place. I wish culture put food on my table, but unfortunately I can’t even use culture as toilet paper. Oh, and culture doesn’t even exist here anymore, so discussing culture bucks is moot.

Don’t come here...save yourself the physical, emotional, mental, and financial misery. It’s not worth it. Maybe it will be one day. Today is not the day. Even with a contract, this place will still have major issues, with a little bit of potential thrown in for good measure.

We have lost a few pilots and I’m not saying you are close to anything like that. BUT reading this post especially about work bleeding into home life and some other things. Make sure if it really is this bad that you reach out to ALPA committees that could offer some help.
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