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Old 10-19-2022 | 02:38 PM
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Um, no. It’s a figurative merger. The definition was changed to fit your newspeak narrative. And by the way, Nazi means German SOCIALIST workers party.

And I don’t watch Fox News.
Old 10-19-2022 | 02:45 PM
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What in tarnation is happening here? I think this is just the thing Irv was hoping to avoid 😅
Old 10-19-2022 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Cockpit997
Um, no. It’s a figurative merger. The definition was changed to fit your newspeak narrative. And by the way, Nazi means German SOCIALIST workers party.

And I don’t watch Fox News.

Oh its figurative. I see. So like the government was used to look after the interests of big business? Like crushing labor unions and stuff? Hmmm who does that sound like?

And yes socialist appears in the name of the Nazi party. That must be why the Nazi brown shirts first came to prominence battling leftists in the streets of Munich. Because they had soooo much in common with the Marxists. Lol. And wouldn't a merger of corporate power and the government be kind the OPPOSITE of socialism?

The Nazis put socialist in their name to make them seem more palatable for elections.They were socialist in the same way the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea is democratic.


The only place I ever hear that Fascists aren't a right wing ideology is from far right wing sources. Its pretty common knowlege, but it does kinda make Trumpists look bad.

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Old 10-19-2022 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer
Oh its figurative. I see. So like the government was used to look after the interests of big business? Like crushing labor unions and stuff? Hmmm who does that sound like?

—-I’ll use a term you’re comfortable with. It’s COLLUSION between government and corporations. We are all about to see how hostile this admin is toward labor. Everything and I mean everything is being propped up for the election. —-


And yes socialist appears in the name of the Nazi party. That must be why the Nazi brown shirts first came to prominence battling leftists in the streets of Berlin. Because they had soooo much in common with the Marxists. Lol. And wouldn't a merger of corporate power and the government be kind the OPPOSITE of socialism?

—-it was a far left takeover of the left like we have now. The merger always transitions from fascism to communism. Like China.—-

The Nazis put socialist in their name to make them seem more palatable for elections.They were socialist in the same way the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea is democratic.


The only place I ever hear that Fascists aren't a right wing ideology is from far right wing sources. It’s pretty common knowlege, but it does kinda make Trumpists look bad.

—-of course, that’s on purpose. The MSM has been saying that the former game show host is an evil maniac, let’s face it he was a game show host. Its pretty weird for a fascist to deregulate, which he did—-

I appreciate the spirited debate. See above
Old 10-19-2022 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer
Oh its figurative. I see. So like the government was used to look after the interests of big business? Like crushing labor unions and stuff? Hmmm who does that sound like?

And yes socialist appears in the name of the Nazi party. That must be why the Nazi brown shirts first came to prominence battling leftists in the streets of Munich. Because they had soooo much in common with the Marxists. Lol. And wouldn't a merger of corporate power and the government be kind the OPPOSITE of socialism?

The Nazis put socialist in their name to make them seem more palatable for elections.They were socialist in the same way the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea is democratic.


The only place I ever hear that Fascists aren't a right wing ideology is from far right wing sources. Its pretty common knowlege, but it does kinda make Trumpists look bad.
This is 100% correct. In the beginning, the Nazi's needed popular support, and the Socialists were needed to win. Nazi's proved to not be socialist at all later on though, when they imprisoned the communists, etc.
Old 10-19-2022 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer
Oh its figurative. I see. So like the government was used to look after the interests of big business? Like crushing labor unions and stuff? Hmmm who does that sound like?

And yes socialist appears in the name of the Nazi party. That must be why the Nazi brown shirts first came to prominence battling leftists in the streets of Munich. Because they had soooo much in common with the Marxists. Lol. And wouldn't a merger of corporate power and the government be kind the OPPOSITE of socialism?

The Nazis put socialist in their name to make them seem more palatable for elections.They were socialist in the same way the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea is democratic.


The only place I ever hear that Fascists aren't a right wing ideology is from far right wing sources. Its pretty common knowlege, but it does kinda make Trumpists look bad.
Fascism refers to a way of organizing society with an emphasis of autocratic government, dictatorial leadership, and the suppression of opposition.

'Fascism': The Word’s Meaning and History | Merriam-Webster

Sure sounds like the progressive left to me. Everything I hear from the right is about freedom, states rights over federalism, your right to think as you wish, and to not tell others how to think, or to try to cancel them when they say something you don't like....
Old 10-19-2022 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
Fascism refers to a way of organizing society with an emphasis of autocratic government, dictatorial leadership, and the suppression of opposition.

'Fascism': The Word’s Meaning and History | Merriam-Webster

Sure sounds like the progressive left to me. Everything I hear from the right is about freedom, states rights over federalism, your right to think as you wish, and to not tell others how to think, or to try to cancel them when they say something you don't like....

A yes freedom. Like marry who you like? Have any kind of consensual sex you like? Bodily autonomy? Freedom to organize? Honoring the results of elections? Rule of law, and not placing any one man above it? Freedom to consume whatever you like as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else? Freedom from a large and oppressive police force? Right to privacy? Freedom from having one religion dictate government policy and being able to have your kids attend public school without being indoctrinated into that religion?

These are all things the GOP stands against. Maybe you don't, but the party does.

Conservatives love to claim that they have a monopoly on freedom, but they definitely do not. While the dems lean towards large government social programs, conservatives brand of large government concerns me a lot more.

I'm gonna leave it with this. Left leaning folk have the spectrum of authoritarian communism to learn from. They need to always look at their policies with the example of how very wrong it can go if they get no push back and refuse to deal with the other side. Right wingers similarly have theocratic and fascist regemes to learn from. There is and continues to be such a thing as right wing extremism. You need to look at your policies closely and learn from history. Step one is opening a history book.
Old 10-19-2022 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Wingedbeast
You do that when someone is kunt-fused.
seriously dude, painting with a broad brush there.
Old 10-20-2022 | 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer
A yes freedom. Like marry who you like? Have any kind of consensual sex you like? Bodily autonomy? Freedom to organize? Honoring the results of elections? Rule of law, and not placing any one man above it? Freedom to consume whatever you like as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else? Freedom from a large and oppressive police force? Right to privacy? Freedom from having one religion dictate government policy and being able to have your kids attend public school without being indoctrinated into that religion?

These are all things the GOP stands against. Maybe you don't, but the party does.

Conservatives love to claim that they have a monopoly on freedom, but they definitely do not. While the dems lean towards large government social programs, conservatives brand of large government concerns me a lot more.

I'm gonna leave it with this. Left leaning folk have the spectrum of authoritarian communism to learn from. They need to always look at their policies with the example of how very wrong it can go if they get no push back and refuse to deal with the other side. Right wingers similarly have theocratic and fascist regemes to learn from. There is and continues to be such a thing as right wing extremism. You need to look at your policies closely and learn from history. Step one is opening a history book.
It sounds like you don’t understand the difference between freedom and liberty. But I understand your analogy of the lefties and righties. The system was created to keep us in the middle. lobbyists need to go and we need to get the money out of politics.
Old 10-20-2022 | 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer
A yes freedom. Like marry who you like? Have any kind of consensual sex you like? Bodily autonomy? Freedom to organize? Honoring the results of elections? Rule of law, and not placing any one man above it? Freedom to consume whatever you like as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else? Freedom from a large and oppressive police force? Right to privacy? Freedom from having one religion dictate government policy and being able to have your kids attend public school without being indoctrinated into that religion?

These are all things the GOP stands against. Maybe you don't, but the party does.

Conservatives love to claim that they have a monopoly on freedom, but they definitely do not. While the dems lean towards large government social programs, conservatives brand of large government concerns me a lot more.

I'm gonna leave it with this. Left leaning folk have the spectrum of authoritarian communism to learn from. They need to always look at their policies with the example of how very wrong it can go if they get no push back and refuse to deal with the other side. Right wingers similarly have theocratic and fascist regemes to learn from. There is and continues to be such a thing as right wing extremism. You need to look at your policies closely and learn from history. Step one is opening a history book.

wow feel better now?

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