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Bozo the pilot 07-05-2018 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by embraerjetpilot (Post 2628297)
Sadly, most of them won’t feed and shelter a family of four

How much you wanna pay for a burger?

Std Deviation 07-05-2018 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot (Post 2628366)
How much you wanna pay for a burger?

The same can be said of getting rid of undocumented agricultural labor. How much you want to pay for an avocado, bottle of wine, tomato, etc.?
Or construction here in TX.

queue 07-05-2018 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by Std Deviation (Post 2628405)
The same can be said of getting rid of undocumented agricultural labor. How much you want to pay for an avocado, bottle of wine, tomato, etc.?
Or construction here in TX.


Not specifically addressing your statement, but....


So by letting people in through negligence in not enforcing the LAW, aren't we creating a permanent underclass of disposable workers? How is this even moral to anyone? Isn't the whole purpose of LEGAL immigration to ensure those people are properly matriculated into the system so they pay taxes (all taxes) like you and me while getting a fair shot at every service their taxes pay for?

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amcflyboy 07-05-2018 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by BunkerF16 (Post 2626114)
What I know Hyper is that there are too many "Just happy to be here", "It's better than what we had/where I came from", "Gee, what happens if the economy collapses" cowards at this company for there to have enough unity for us to stick together to get a deal we really deserve.


The company knows this. They know they can offer a below average contract to this pilot group and a majority will gobble it up like a hobo on a ham sandwich.

Bunker, we are here for one reason...because of NO UNITY. A lot of guys did not follow MEC guidance, and continued picking up RSA’s, VDA’s, etc. It is our fault that we are here, hence the crap leverage the NC had in negotiations.

Do you really think we will make substantial gains in TA2? Are you willing to wait two years minimum for a TA2 with MAYBE 10-15% gains? Do you really think we will get released at an impasse? I’ll give you a hint....look at Frontier. Asked to be released three times, denied all three times. Sitting there and accusing people of “just being happy to be here” is a false dilemma, on your part. As soon as the Labor Dispute was over, guys started doing SET and stand up PA’s, as if they missed it.

We are here because of us. Not because of JB or because of the MEC. Look at what we have to work with. This is negotiating. You win some and lose some. JB has also a right to keep the shareholders happy. Its business, not emotions.

Slaphappy 07-05-2018 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by Std Deviation (Post 2628405)
The same can be said of getting rid of undocumented agricultural labor. How much you want to pay for an avocado, bottle of wine, tomato, etc.?
Or construction here in TX.

Probably not much more than what europe pays for things using legal labor instead of enabling Illegal immigration.

Slaphappy 07-05-2018 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by embraerjetpilot (Post 2628297)
Sadly, most of them won’t feed and shelter a family of four

based on what?
It's funny on hearing the news that there are more jobs than workers and you somehow find a way to make it bad. You know that situation leads to higher wages right?

Slaphappy 07-05-2018 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by Flytolive (Post 2628341)
First, the Atlanta Fed was forecasting 5.4% not 5.7% and it is not an annual rate, but for for Q1 2018. Guess what? That was last quarter and the it turned out to be 2.2%. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/30/seco...-2018-gdp.html

Your article was from February, and if you had actually read it you would have seen that the prediction was a complete outlier.

So, much like Trump you don't let the facts stand in the way of a good story. That is otherwise known as complete and utter BS, but nice try.

False,

https://www.fxstreet.com/news/atlant...2-201805311512

The atlanta Fed has made these predictions for later in the year. Their q2 forcast is 4.7. We'll see how that plays out in the next few days.

They aren't the only ones.

Bozo the pilot 07-05-2018 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by Std Deviation (Post 2628405)
The same can be said of getting rid of undocumented agricultural labor. How much you want to pay for an avocado, bottle of wine, tomato, etc.?
Or construction here in TX.

Whatever it costs to get them on the grid.

Flytolive 07-05-2018 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 2628468)
False

I agree the Atlanta Fed's GDPNow model estimates have been proven false. In Q1 2018 it predicted 5.4% GDP growth and the ended up being only 2.2%. Obviously, the model is worthless. The consensus estimate for 2018 is less than 3% even with soaring debt.

Bluedriver 07-06-2018 05:01 AM


Originally Posted by hilltopflyer (Post 2628345)
It’s not minimums wage responsibility to feed a family of four. If people applied themselves they wouldn’t have to have a minimum wage job when they had a family of four. I don’t mind supplementing people who have the family of four and have a minimum wage job. At least they are trying to work for a living and not relying on the government.

I think he is saying that just because there are jobs doesn't mean there are near enough GOOD jobs available.


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