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CaptCoolHand 07-08-2018 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2630202)
Great. So all 300 million get trained for other high paying jobs, but if the vast majority of the jobs AVAILABLE are low wage jobs, then what?

gimme a break... :rolleyes:

when we run into that problem there won't be a need for jobs. because we'll all be living off of space credits. everyone will have a job and a purpose. it'll be magical.

Bluedriver 07-08-2018 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand (Post 2630265)
gimme a break... :rolleyes:

when we run into that problem there won't be a need for jobs. because we'll all be living off of space credits. everyone will have a job and a purpose. it'll be magical.

You don't think there are many highly qualified and educated people right now under-employed? I do. Lots of people have good educations but are unable to find "good" jobs.

TransWorld 07-08-2018 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2630279)
You don't think there are many highly qualified and educated people right now under-employed? I do. Lots of people have good educations but are unable to find "good" jobs.

Like all those pilots with a 4 year degree, clean record, and 1500 hours flipping hamburgers at McD that cannot get a regional to give them the time of day? :D

Bluedriver 07-08-2018 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 2630357)
Like all those pilots with a 4 year degree, clean record, and 1500 hours flipping hamburgers at McD that cannot get a regional to give them the time of day? :D

Yeah those. Or maybe the millions of people outside aviation.

Bozo the pilot 07-09-2018 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2630489)
Yeah those. Or maybe the millions of people outside aviation.

You clearly have the cures to society's ills. Why do you waste your time on the likes of us BD? ;)

Bluedriver 07-09-2018 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot (Post 2630815)
You clearly have the cures to society's ills. Why do you waste your time on the likes of us BD? ;)

It's funny someone as opinionated as you is calling out someone else for being opinionated.

I know, I know, vote YES.

Bozo the pilot 07-09-2018 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2630824)
It's funny someone as opinionated as you is calling out someone else for being opinionated.

I know, I know, vote YES.

I dont recall advising anyone on their vote, but operate as you will BD.
I am funny, I know. Thanks for that.:)

Slaphappy 07-10-2018 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by Flytolive (Post 2628633)
I agree the Atlanta Fed's GDPNow model estimates have been proven false. In Q1 2018 it predicted 5.4% GDP growth and the ended up being only 2.2%. Obviously, the model is worthless. The consensus estimate for 2018 is less than 3% even with soaring debt.

False again
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/15/gold...dp-growth.html

Even Goldman sachs now think gdp will be above 4% for q2.

queue 07-11-2018 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2630191)
Ok, but the vast majority of jobs available are low wage service industry or similar jobs. All 300 million of us could go to University to be Rocket Surgeons, but if the majority of the jobs are hotel, shopping mall and fast food, what good would that do?

The limited mindset of the American leftist. How about this... get an education, go to trade school, self educate...

Then START YOUR OWN NON-SERVICE sector job. No one is stopping them. There are infinite possibilities. Why depend on others?

Those people who can't make money have only themselves to blame.

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Bluedriver 07-12-2018 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by queue (Post 2632846)
The limited mindset of the American leftist. How about this... get an education, go to trade school, self educate...

Then START YOUR OWN NON-SERVICE sector job. No one is stopping them. There are infinite possibilities. Why depend on others?

Those people who can't make money have only themselves to blame.

This communique is for entertainment purposes only. It does not implicitly or explicitly acknowledge employment with any air carrier nor is any relationship implied. This communique does not represent the opinions or policies of ALPA or JB ALPA and does not represent the collective pilot group, ALPA, nor does it imply collective bargaining, advocacy, or workforce actions intended to disrupt operations.

Yep, millions start a new business... What's the statistical success rate of a new business?

Whats the safety net you propose that will help with housing and food for their family for the very high percentage of start-ups that fail after they sink their life savings into their "swing for the fences"?

In our healthcare system, how is a new business startup going to provide/fund healthcare for his/her family on the individual market during the very lean start-up years?

Sorry, we are all entitled to our "opinion". But I think it's obvious that the majority of jobs available are not "good" jobs, no matter how educated the average American is and starting your own "start-up" is not a practical solution for the masses for a multitude of reasons.

Possible yes, practical for the masses, nope.


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