Originally Posted by BunkerF16 (Post 2626119)

Not taking it personally I know what you meant. I think towards the end, just before we agreed to the AIP, we were headed in that exact direction. We're never going to get 100% compliance, but we had enough where it was making an impact. Plus we were headed into the busiest part of the year where our SOP flying would have crippled this company. We had the upper hand, or at least significant leverage for the first time in this entire process and I feel we let them off the mat. We left money on the table, I'm convinced of that.

Originally Posted by O2pilot (Post 2626121)

The future is always “uncertain”. Also a trade war would not good for the EU, Canada, or China. We have massive trade imbalances with those blocs that benefit them. We spend our money buying their goods. They refuse to buy ours, as they have massive tariffs already on US goods to protect their industries. Now its their turn and they don’t like it.

Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand (Post 2626123)

We may have, maybe not. All I know is we've all gotta make a call yes or no. The hard numbers are the hard numbers. I'm trying to quantify the extra time off and better QOL that I'll have. This isn't necessarily all about the W2.

Originally Posted by hyperboy (Post 2626059)

You gonna back my family financially if things go south in your scenario? Thought so I like gambling...alot!....not that much!

Originally Posted by dogpilot (Post 2626244)

Never let fear mongers dictate these decisions, no one can or ever has predicted economic ups or downs with absolute certainty. Make the decision if this is good for you now, if not vote no. Fear factoring is childish, stop trying to instill fear into the equation. Is the deal that bad, that it can’t stand on its own merits, but rather must rely on fear to sell it? Shameful. Good luck guys.

Originally Posted by Southerner (Post 2626256)

I don't think anyone is relying on fear. A calculus of risk vs reward should be part of the decision. Some are more risk tolerant than others. Someone who isn't risk tolerant isn't somehow a bad person or shameful for voting in accordance with their own needs, nor are they for sharing their perspective.

It is shameful to attack/ridicule other pilots for not voting how you think they should vote.

Originally Posted by BunkerF16 (Post 2626266)

Not true. Many people are taking into consideration what happens if the economy tanks tomorrow. That's fear, irrational fear. And it's even been propagated by many of the MEC members and several other top union officers.