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seekingblue 07-10-2018 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by Softpayman (Post 2631782)
And if had been the E2 195 you’d be complaining about something else. Either way complainers are gonna complain.

This. 1000%

Everyone was on here complaining that “jetcheap” was going to get the E190 E2, that it’s a stupid choice etc etc.

Now that the company did exactly what we all wanted them to do, we complain.

I swear there are some of us who would complain about having a free dinner.

da42pilot 07-10-2018 02:35 PM

Yeah this looks like abandoning the lower end of the market (100 seaters) and replacing A320s with lower paying 220s.

This ain’t a E190 replacement, folks.

nuball5 07-10-2018 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by seekingblue (Post 2631783)
This. 1000%

Everyone was on here complaining that “jetcheap” was going to get the E190 E2, that it’s a stupid choice etc etc.

Now that the company did exactly what we all wanted them to do, we complain.

I swear there are some of us who would complain about having a free dinner.

If you consider those snack boxes dinner, then sure. 😉

captsurf 07-10-2018 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by Softpayman (Post 2631782)
And if had been the E2 195 you’d be complaining about something else. Either way complainers are gonna complain.



Sorry for wanting to see this airline actually GROW. Saying 5-7% growth year-over-year is BS when it’s only because the ASM is increasing, and nothing else...

Everyone else is ADDING hulls. We are just replacing ours with bigger ones.


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seekingblue 07-10-2018 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by captsurf (Post 2631789)
Sorry for wanting to see this airline actually GROW. Saying 5-7% growth year-over-year is BS when it’s only because the ASM is increasing, and nothing else...

Everyone else is ADDING hulls. We are just replacing ours with bigger ones.


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Sort of confused by your statement.

We are replacing the 190’s for sure. But also adding hulls.

So we are replacing the 190’s and growing (both in ASM and fleet count)

capn a220 07-10-2018 02:46 PM

I agree, this is the right aircraft for Jetblue. Not that anyone asked me to vote for/against. The pay for this aircraft and fleet protection language in our TA, however, is all kinds of wrong. And I am being asked to vote for/against that.

They just announced the order. The company will cave quickly if we vote no and insist on fixing this now. Industry average pay. A320 pay for any A220 configured with greater than 135 seats. A320/321 block hour/fleet number protection - if either decreases from DOS - A220 pay increases to A320.

This can be fixed over lunch. But if the TA passes, we'll regret it for the next 5-7 years.

seekingblue 07-10-2018 02:47 PM

Question for the 190 guys in the group:

Does this fundamentally change how you will vote?

captsurf 07-10-2018 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by seekingblue (Post 2631791)
Sort of confused by your statement.



We are replacing the 190’s for sure. But also adding hulls.



So we are replacing the 190’s and growing (both in ASM and fleet count)



And adding seats to our A320s..... and replacing A320s with A321s. And replacing A320neo orders with A321neo orders. So, yea we are growing. But a lot of it is fake growth.


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da42pilot 07-10-2018 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by captsurf (Post 2631796)
And adding seats to our A320s..... and replacing A320s with A321s. And replacing A320neo orders with A321neo orders. So, yea we are growing. But a lot of it is fake growth.


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A fake Airbus replacing a real Airbus :D

hyperboy 07-10-2018 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by Mattio (Post 2631776)
Nice 2nd post. Strong start. :D

The love affair begins.....:D


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