dontsurf

and yes, a huge improvement over current reserve rules. is it perfect? no. is anything perfect? no. there are definitely some annoyances. here's a con:

it says SCL start no earlier than 1000, but you have to bid a C or D silo in order for that to be the case. both C and D silos can give you redeyes. it should have been written that you can bid silo B, and they have to give you a 1000, 1100, 1130, whatever time start at 1000 or after in silo B. it is a scam that just to get the "first day start after 1000" you have to be eligible for a redeye.

i would have also liked to have seen them let us move our reserve days around (with green days on the grid, of course) to have only 2 or maybe even one reserve day, and only one day off in between. more flexibility, in other words. we can now waive some stuff in the original bid, but apparently not when trying to adjust our schedules.

here's another pro:

they can only force you into silo D 6 times per month (well, bid period). that is good for junior people who don't want to be in silo D but are going to get stuck with it.

donk74

Pro???

25.X.14 Additional Disrupted Reserve Pilot provisions
a. A Reserve Pilot who has reported for a Pairing shall have his Pairing disrupted in the same manner as a Pilot who is not a Reserve Pilot.

Does this mean the same for pay credit, once on your schedule the credit is yours because it is now your OSP pairing?



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texpilot

So how is this not a correct reading? Currently, a RSV cannot fly back to back red eyes as a line holder can. As a line holder, you can finish a redeye in the morning and do another redeye that night. A current RSV finishes the same redeye, but can’t work that same day, can’t even start until 0800 the next calendar day.

C silo doesn’t have the same stuff, TA specifically says D silo waves that protection: The TA:

“WOCL Encroachment
A Reserve Pilot (excluding a Pilot assigned a D silo RAP) on an operating Segment transiting more than two (2) hours in the WOCL (excluding Pairing assignments reporting at or after 0300 Base local time) shall not be assigned a RAP or a Pairing starting before 0800 Base local time the next calendar day. A Pilot may waive this provision.”


The way this TA is worded, the D silo will be able to fly a redeye again the same night they finish.

I HOPE I’m reading it wrong; tell me why my interpretation is incorrect.

"-Being rescheduled 1 minute outside of original footprint does not necessarily trigger the 5 hours PRM/JRM anymore.

- i thought that now it is whatever is flown/deadheaded at 190%, not 5 hours minimum? this doesn't happen to me much."

As of now, when rescheduled 1 minute past OSP, it's an automatic 5 hours at 190%. That will not necessarily kick in under the TA, depending on the time period rescheduled.

"-Assignment can go until 0059 and be considered same day, no longer 2359.

- it isn't currently 2359, unless i am not understanding what you're referring to here. under current rules you are still on the same "day" until 0300 or 0301, i forget which."

Currently, a RSV day "ends" at 2359. Under the TA it will end, for assignment purposes at 0059. As of now you wont be assigned a trip that is scheduled to end past 2359 on your last day. This is no longer under the TA; they can assign you a "2 day" trip on your last day of RSV if it finishes before 0059.

Writing on an Iphone, hope this comes out correctly.

Tex

Rabid Seagull

Hmm, let me see if this helps?
I think dontsurf is correct, this does codify what we already have.

Phx 3day. ( which will go senior anyway )

Day 1:lets say it departs in silo D. Rsv pilot in silo D is assigned trip
Day2 depart PHX late evening. Flies 2 hours in WOCL.
Day3 arrives BOS 0700.
Reserve pilot not scheduled for next day before 0800, unless waived.

I think where you're getting hung up on the silo D carveout is, above scenario the rsv pilot on day 2 is not assigned a silo, so no carve out.

'Upon completion of a pairing, a sc rsv shall be released from duty for the remainder of the day'

So you can't be put back on a silo D for that night...so it'll be at least 0800 the next day.

Mud probably

texpilot

Haha, I appreciate it!

I'm not really talking about 3 day or 4 days trips, I'm talking about how this applies to a redeye turn. The BQN's, PSE's and such.

As of now, a RSV can't do them back to back, land in the morning do it again that night. This wording leaves me to believe a D silo can land from a a redeye turn, and do another one that night.

What do you think?

Tex

Edit: Should have said redeye turns from the beginning, sorry about that.

Rabid Seagull

Oh, and to answer your first question:

CON:
-December 31, 2019-

Silos...whatever, company still has control over them. Don't need a silo C for tomorrow...

First legal pilot gets the trip, not first pilot in the silo

You highlighted -NO AIRPORT RESERVE- Well, we didn't have that before. I hope we didn't give up $.15 of per diem for that ( just giving you cr$p).

I'm not sure this TA really helps out junior rsv folk. As a senior, commuting rsv guy I think I'll be able to make it work.

Rabid Seagull

I hope that the 'shall be released from duty for the remainder of the day' quote applies to that. Finished for the day, but since you were silo D, you may start before 0800 the next day.

Thick mud now

texpilot

That would help! Where’s it say that RS?!

Thanks,
Tex

seekingblue

Not sure how it will work, but there will be a bypass option.

Rabid Seagull

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Filler