JB or stay at the SkyWest?
#81
Standby Reserve at LGA
Joined APC: Jun 2017
Posts: 171
+1 to Sliceback's answer for OP:
If [TPIC] < 1000 hrs and [age] < 50 years
then:
Stay at OO and wait until you're competitive.
Else:
Take first major airline job offered. It may be the last one you get.
Congrats if you got an offer.
If [TPIC] < 1000 hrs and [age] < 50 years
then:
Stay at OO and wait until you're competitive.
Else:
Take first major airline job offered. It may be the last one you get.
Congrats if you got an offer.
#82
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 1,099
If you only have a few years left Jetblue Airways is NOT where I would spend them. All the criticism of the airline on this board is largely correct. From the cult-like mentality to the every changing rules or benefits it simply isn't worth going from a known commodity to Jetblue.
Should you have the opportunity to get hired at a legacy then the move makes sense to me.
The idiocy by which Jetblue airways is run will alone make you regret the move.
Should you have the opportunity to get hired at a legacy then the move makes sense to me.
The idiocy by which Jetblue airways is run will alone make you regret the move.
#83
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Joined APC: May 2009
Position: Square root of the variance and average of the variation
Posts: 1,602
In 4 years as a bus FO there was only 1 CA that I felt I couldn’t fly with again. Even the one that started his pairing brief with, “I hate this job, I hate this company, and I’ll probably hate you. And you do all preflights.” was not that bad. More bark than bite.
The one that started his pairing brief with.... “So are you and your wife swingers?” [we’re not] was mildly creepy but okay to work with.
As CA what personality disorder should I develop?
The one that started his pairing brief with.... “So are you and your wife swingers?” [we’re not] was mildly creepy but okay to work with.
As CA what personality disorder should I develop?
#88
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Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Posts: 2,918
I agree that QOL items have different values for different people. Soft time here isn't like there. We primarily get paid by soft time (except maybe on the 777; I blocked in an entire year here what I would do in 3 months there, and no I wasn't on reserve). Throw in the pension, B-fund, excellent health insurance, good work rules, and it adds up, in addition to the base pay rate. I made excel spreadsheets. I ran the numbers. For me it made financial sense, in addition to offering other benefits.
I definitely agree it is all subjective. I have friends who are staying there. I think I've earned my right to call it JetJoke, after 7 years of putting up with increasing BS there. The operation is a joke. I feel for you and everyone who works there. Your management is a colossal train wreck. You don't have to agree. But you're really going to get offended by it?
I didn't intend to make this a JB vs XXX airline. I was just pointing out that financially speaking, it isn't necessarily true to say that after 4 years it doesn't make sense to leave. But to each his/her own. I wish you all good luck.
I definitely agree it is all subjective. I have friends who are staying there. I think I've earned my right to call it JetJoke, after 7 years of putting up with increasing BS there. The operation is a joke. I feel for you and everyone who works there. Your management is a colossal train wreck. You don't have to agree. But you're really going to get offended by it?
I didn't intend to make this a JB vs XXX airline. I was just pointing out that financially speaking, it isn't necessarily true to say that after 4 years it doesn't make sense to leave. But to each his/her own. I wish you all good luck.
Yeah I will a little. Oh maybe I should go back to the Air Wisconsin threads and point out all of the issues they already know about. I don’t but that’s me. If anything the “negative sides” (truth) of JetBlue is well well represented on here. But sure pile on.
But if I were you with that opportunity I would bail as well. It’s definitely a good move. Obviously
#89
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Posts: 2,918
In 4 years as a bus FO there was only 1 CA that I felt I couldn’t fly with again. Even the one that started his pairing brief with, “I hate this job, I hate this company, and I’ll probably hate you. And you do all preflights.” was not that bad. More bark than bite.
The one that started his pairing brief with.... “So are you and your wife swingers?” [we’re not] was mildly creepy but okay to work with.
As CA what personality disorder should I develop?
The one that started his pairing brief with.... “So are you and your wife swingers?” [we’re not] was mildly creepy but okay to work with.
As CA what personality disorder should I develop?
They really said that? Wtf.
#90
On Reserve
Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 23
I agree that QOL items have different values for different people. Soft time here isn't like there. We primarily get paid by soft time (except maybe on the 777; I blocked in an entire year here what I would do in 3 months there, and no I wasn't on reserve). Throw in the pension, B-fund, excellent health insurance, good work rules, and it adds up, in addition to the base pay rate. I made excel spreadsheets. I ran the numbers. For me it made financial sense, in addition to offering other benefits.
I definitely agree it is all subjective. I have friends who are staying there. I think I've earned my right to call it JetJoke, after 7 years of putting up with increasing BS there. The operation is a joke. I feel for you and everyone who works there. Your management is a colossal train wreck. You don't have to agree. But you're really going to get offended by it?
I didn't intend to make this a JB vs XXX airline. I was just pointing out that financially speaking, it isn't necessarily true to say that after 4 years it doesn't make sense to leave. But to each his/her own. I wish you all good luck.
I definitely agree it is all subjective. I have friends who are staying there. I think I've earned my right to call it JetJoke, after 7 years of putting up with increasing BS there. The operation is a joke. I feel for you and everyone who works there. Your management is a colossal train wreck. You don't have to agree. But you're really going to get offended by it?
I didn't intend to make this a JB vs XXX airline. I was just pointing out that financially speaking, it isn't necessarily true to say that after 4 years it doesn't make sense to leave. But to each his/her own. I wish you all good luck.
Apples and oranges and not a fair comparison. I’m not on the 190 and have never been so I don’t have that take on it.
I have friends at FedEx and they are constantly flying while I am sleeping, there is no way around that. Some people care more about QOL than compensation, and some have no interest in living in MEM.
I would argue that yes at year 4 on the Bus at $152/hr living in base it truly doesn’t make sense to leave.
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