JB or stay at the SkyWest?
12-14-2018, 06:43 AM
#41
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Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Posts: 2,918
Originally Posted by BlueBus
Good God, if you actually believe all of those things about Skywest then you are a perfect candidate for the juice at JB. You and Hyperboy can fly all your trips together and talk about bringing humanity back to air travel and JetBlue for good
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For me that post says he is staying at Skywest.
12-14-2018, 07:05 AM
#42
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Joined APC: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,445
Originally Posted by donpizmeov2
Folks ... thanks for this constructive conversation. Your sharing SA is a great value!
So let me add a bit of fire to what has being evaluated so far.
1. SkyWest is the best regional (with a major like foot-print but still a regional) and the working environment is amazing (and you do not have to fight to create a better atmosphere), with outstanding economical stability and job security;
2. Left seat is definitely better than FO in a nasty cockpit with a grumpy PIC (and looks like there are a lot of discontent in JB);
3. Money is not the solution to compensate poor QoL (and all of us knows that);
4. Last but not least ... when there will be an other economical crash (i.e. 9/11, fuel price ...) and we all now it is just a matter of when not if, what would make you more marketable to find a job overseas PIC or SIC time?
So let me add a bit of fire to what has being evaluated so far.
1. SkyWest is the best regional (with a major like foot-print but still a regional) and the working environment is amazing (and you do not have to fight to create a better atmosphere), with outstanding economical stability and job security;
2. Left seat is definitely better than FO in a nasty cockpit with a grumpy PIC (and looks like there are a lot of discontent in JB);
3. Money is not the solution to compensate poor QoL (and all of us knows that);
4. Last but not least ... when there will be an other economical crash (i.e. 9/11, fuel price ...) and we all now it is just a matter of when not if, what would make you more marketable to find a job overseas PIC or SIC time?
This place is like one big jedi mind trick. That is why some of us sound so negative, it's an attempt to de-lobotomize our brothers, sisters, and transgendered fellow aviators here.
They want to pay you less to do the same job. Remember that and we will get along great.
12-14-2018, 07:14 AM
#44
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 199
I rarely like to come on here and comment since most people just wait for any question to bash on the company. If you think Skywest is that great (comical to me because I have friends saying the exact opposite) then you should stay at Skywest. The fact you’re asking those questions and view JetBlue how you’ve described you are exactly the same person that in 6 months will be coming on here to say burn it down. By no means am I saying you’re wrong to think the way you do. Everyone has different views and I think with yours is best for you to stay in Skywest. For me I was a captain in Republic I am 27 years old with a four year degree and I currently commute. Even with commuting I knew everything I was coming to. I came on here and saw the post both positive and negative and absolutely JetBlue has issues we are still behind the bigger legacies and cargo and I don’t know if we will ever surpass them. However I can tell you I am incredibly happy with my decision and I show up to work with great people and I hope the situation continues to improve.
12-14-2018, 07:53 AM
#45
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Joined APC: Dec 2008
Position: Left,Right, Left, Right,Right,Left, Right, Left
Posts: 3,150
Originally Posted by donpizmeov2
Folks ... thanks for this constructive conversation. Your sharing SA is a great value!
So let me add a bit of fire to what has being evaluated so far.
1. SkyWest is the best regional (with a major like foot-print but still a regional) and the working environment is amazing (and you do not have to fight to create a better atmosphere), with outstanding economical stability and job security;
2. Left seat is definitely better than FO in a nasty cockpit with a grumpy PIC (and looks like there are a lot of discontent in JB);
3. Money is not the solution to compensate poor QoL (and all of us knows that);
4. Last but not least ... when there will be an other economical crash (i.e. 9/11, fuel price ...) and we all now it is just a matter of when not if, what would make you more marketable to find a job overseas PIC or SIC time?
So let me add a bit of fire to what has being evaluated so far.
1. SkyWest is the best regional (with a major like foot-print but still a regional) and the working environment is amazing (and you do not have to fight to create a better atmosphere), with outstanding economical stability and job security;
2. Left seat is definitely better than FO in a nasty cockpit with a grumpy PIC (and looks like there are a lot of discontent in JB);
3. Money is not the solution to compensate poor QoL (and all of us knows that);
4. Last but not least ... when there will be an other economical crash (i.e. 9/11, fuel price ...) and we all now it is just a matter of when not if, what would make you more marketable to find a job overseas PIC or SIC time?
2 sure is... but they’re everywhere. This job is what you make it. It can be as easy or as hard as you make it to be.
3 it sure as hell helps.
4 good luck in your decision.
12-14-2018, 08:05 AM
#46
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,316
Originally Posted by aldonite7667
In love with 5 legs a day and motel 6.
12-14-2018, 08:23 AM
#47
Layover Master
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Seated
Posts: 4,311
Originally Posted by donpizmeov2
Folks ... thanks for this constructive conversation. Your sharing SA is a great value!
So let me add a bit of fire to what has being evaluated so far.
1. SkyWest is the best regional (with a major like foot-print but still a regional) and the working environment is amazing (and you do not have to fight to create a better atmosphere), with outstanding economical stability and job security;
2. Left seat is definitely better than FO in a nasty cockpit with a grumpy PIC (and looks like there are a lot of discontent in JB);
3. Money is not the solution to compensate poor QoL (and all of us knows that);
4. Last but not least ... when there will be an other economical crash (i.e. 9/11, fuel price ...) and we all now it is just a matter of when not if, what would make you more marketable to find a job overseas PIC or SIC time?
So let me add a bit of fire to what has being evaluated so far.
1. SkyWest is the best regional (with a major like foot-print but still a regional) and the working environment is amazing (and you do not have to fight to create a better atmosphere), with outstanding economical stability and job security;
2. Left seat is definitely better than FO in a nasty cockpit with a grumpy PIC (and looks like there are a lot of discontent in JB);
3. Money is not the solution to compensate poor QoL (and all of us knows that);
4. Last but not least ... when there will be an other economical crash (i.e. 9/11, fuel price ...) and we all now it is just a matter of when not if, what would make you more marketable to find a job overseas PIC or SIC time?
12-14-2018, 08:31 AM
#48
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,473
Originally Posted by KNOTAPILOT
I rarely like to come on here and comment since most people just wait for any question to bash on the company. If you think Skywest is that great (comical to me because I have friends saying the exact opposite) then you should stay at Skywest. The fact you’re asking those questions and view JetBlue how you’ve described you are exactly the same person that in 6 months will be coming on here to say burn it down. By no means am I saying you’re wrong to think the way you do. Everyone has different views and I think with yours is best for you to stay in Skywest. For me I was a captain in Republic I am 27 years old with a four year degree and I currently commute. Even with commuting I knew everything I was coming to. I came on here and saw the post both positive and negative and absolutely JetBlue has issues we are still behind the bigger legacies and cargo and I don’t know if we will ever surpass them. However I can tell you I am incredibly happy with my decision and I show up to work with great people and I hope the situation continues to improve.
12-14-2018, 08:33 AM
#49
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Joined APC: Oct 2015
Position: Gear slinger
Posts: 2,899
Originally Posted by donpizmeov2
Folks ... thanks for this constructive conversation. Your sharing SA is a great value!
So let me add a bit of fire to what has being evaluated so far.
1. SkyWest is the best regional (with a major like foot-print but still a regional) and the working environment is amazing (and you do not have to fight to create a better atmosphere), with outstanding economical stability and job security;
2. Left seat is definitely better than FO in a nasty cockpit with a grumpy PIC (and looks like there are a lot of discontent in JB);
3. Money is not the solution to compensate poor QoL (and all of us knows that);
4. Last but not least ... when there will be an other economical crash (i.e. 9/11, fuel price ...) and we all now it is just a matter of when not if, what would make you more marketable to find a job overseas PIC or SIC time?
So let me add a bit of fire to what has being evaluated so far.
1. SkyWest is the best regional (with a major like foot-print but still a regional) and the working environment is amazing (and you do not have to fight to create a better atmosphere), with outstanding economical stability and job security;
2. Left seat is definitely better than FO in a nasty cockpit with a grumpy PIC (and looks like there are a lot of discontent in JB);
3. Money is not the solution to compensate poor QoL (and all of us knows that);
4. Last but not least ... when there will be an other economical crash (i.e. 9/11, fuel price ...) and we all now it is just a matter of when not if, what would make you more marketable to find a job overseas PIC or SIC time?
2. Message boards have the same half dozen or so people posting the same stuff. I doubt the extreme internet commandos of JetBlue are representative of the company as a whole. Nobody I know at JetBlue is miserable and now that it’s a320 pay is in the ballpark of legacy narrowbody rates they’re more content to stay there.
3. You’re comfortable with the pay now... will you be comfortable with the pay in 10 years knowing you turned down a job that tops out at $276ish an hour if another offer never materializes?
4. A320 and 170/190 type rating will open a lot more doors for you internationally than the just having a 170/190 type.
You seem to be focusing on the 190 at JetBlue for an apples to apples comparison to life at Skywest but the 190 is a fleet that is going away soon and being replaced by the A220.
After the first two-three years are you comparing a A220/320 career at JetBlue with a 175 career at Skywest? Why did you apply to JetBlue in the first place? Are you content with becoming a Skywest lifer?
Sounds like you want to stay at Skywest and that’s fine. There’s a good chance you won’t get another offer for from a major airline in the next few years and an offer from your dream airline may never come. If you’re not careful you could very easily become that grumpy old captain you lament stuck in the crowd of dime a dozen regional captains competiting for attention from the legacy airlines.
12-14-2018, 08:46 AM
#50
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: May I swing the gear Von Admiral?
Posts: 130
Originally Posted by Gearswinger
I see it the same as commuting. I always make forward progress and get on the earliest flight possible, because I have no idea what will happen later in the day.
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