BOS Reserve
#11
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Joined APC: Aug 2013
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Definitely do not say this in an interview.
It's about what you can do for the company, not what the company can do for you.
Everyone at the interview knows you want BOS based on your address. You just need to jump through the hoops and play the game that is the interview.
Good luck.
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It's about what you can do for the company, not what the company can do for you.
Everyone at the interview knows you want BOS based on your address. You just need to jump through the hoops and play the game that is the interview.
Good luck.
Gup
I said this in my interview. I’m sure I mentioned plenty of things about cleaning planes and whatnot, but I definitely said a BOS base was a motivating factor.
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#12
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I live 60 mi north of Boston. It’s about an hour drive to the employee lot. In my first year on the 320, I’m flying about 4-5 days a month. Most are pre-assigned trips while on reserve, once a month or so I get a callout. I had min call out maybe 3-4 times last year,?the rest are 3 hours or more.
I have a few friends who are in their first year in BOS on the 190. They are working more, maybe 10-12 days a month.
I have young kids so I enjoy being at home a lot. The 320 is overstaffed in BOS so until they fix that, I imagine my QOL will stay the same (at least until summer).
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I have a few friends who are in their first year in BOS on the 190. They are working more, maybe 10-12 days a month.
I have young kids so I enjoy being at home a lot. The 320 is overstaffed in BOS so until they fix that, I imagine my QOL will stay the same (at least until summer).
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Reserve has definitely gotten worse on the 190. Mostly due to staffing but also due to some of the contract rules backfiring (at least for senior guys). Even before the contract, if they start multiple guys in the PM section, they put the senior guy earlier and he usually gets called before the junior guys do, which was always messed up. However, now that they have to start everyone after 1000 on day 1, you end up with more junior guys starting later than senior guys and this carries into day 2 etc... Also, the 14 hour "Hours of Service" limit has also resulted in senior guys getting trips that would've otherwise gone to junior guys who started earlier. If you are the senior guy and bid PM, which used to be a sound strategy, you usually start late enough that the 14 hour limit doesn't benefit you (at least on the 190). You often end up sandwiched between junior AM guys who aren't contractually-legal for the trip and junior PM guys that start after you and, therefore, you get called for the trip. That said, senior guys who bid PM are probably still working less than senior guys who bid AM.
With the contract fully implemented, it will go from bidding AM or PM to an ABCD silo system:
Early morning, late morning, afternoon, evening
Most people that previously bid PM will probably bid the C and D silo. With the D silo starting at or after 1700, there probably won't be many D silos awarded on the 190. Therefore, if your strategy was to start late, you will be in the C silo and they will start the senior guy closest to noon while the junior guys get to start later (I was really ****ed about the way this was written. Why punish seniority?? At least gives guys more of an option.)
Also, there's a clause that if a D silo (after 1700) is awarded, then they have to award it to that pilot 3 consecutive times. They normally start people who are on long blocks of reserve, later in the day (when they're in the first day(s) of their reserve block). Commuters tend to bid longer blocks of reserve than local guys. Therefore, commuters are going to end up getting that 1700+ to start more often and keeping it for a few consecutive days, inhibiting someone on a shorter block of days from getting it, even when both pilots are on their 3rd to last day for example. This may be an issue for local senior guys.
I apologize if this is difficult to follow for someone who isn't at JB, but basically the reserve rules have gotten better for junior guys and not much better, worse in some ways, for senior guys. I'm also wondering if guys on the Bus are seeing the same things.
I'm personally done with reserve on the 190. It's not worth it anymore. Was a great run while it lasted. I always argued the case that a great reserve system that benefited senior guys was great for everyone (well, most people). Some guys that would've normally snatched up great trips bid reserve and those good trips filter further down the seniority list. It equals more happy people. If you are willing to have your phone on 10-24 hours a day and answer the call from the company, there should be greater rewards for that. I really am interested in hearing Airbus guys' opinion on this. We know the contract was really designed around the Airbus so maybe these issues aren't as prevalent there.
With the contract fully implemented, it will go from bidding AM or PM to an ABCD silo system:
Early morning, late morning, afternoon, evening
Most people that previously bid PM will probably bid the C and D silo. With the D silo starting at or after 1700, there probably won't be many D silos awarded on the 190. Therefore, if your strategy was to start late, you will be in the C silo and they will start the senior guy closest to noon while the junior guys get to start later (I was really ****ed about the way this was written. Why punish seniority?? At least gives guys more of an option.)
Also, there's a clause that if a D silo (after 1700) is awarded, then they have to award it to that pilot 3 consecutive times. They normally start people who are on long blocks of reserve, later in the day (when they're in the first day(s) of their reserve block). Commuters tend to bid longer blocks of reserve than local guys. Therefore, commuters are going to end up getting that 1700+ to start more often and keeping it for a few consecutive days, inhibiting someone on a shorter block of days from getting it, even when both pilots are on their 3rd to last day for example. This may be an issue for local senior guys.
I apologize if this is difficult to follow for someone who isn't at JB, but basically the reserve rules have gotten better for junior guys and not much better, worse in some ways, for senior guys. I'm also wondering if guys on the Bus are seeing the same things.
I'm personally done with reserve on the 190. It's not worth it anymore. Was a great run while it lasted. I always argued the case that a great reserve system that benefited senior guys was great for everyone (well, most people). Some guys that would've normally snatched up great trips bid reserve and those good trips filter further down the seniority list. It equals more happy people. If you are willing to have your phone on 10-24 hours a day and answer the call from the company, there should be greater rewards for that. I really am interested in hearing Airbus guys' opinion on this. We know the contract was really designed around the Airbus so maybe these issues aren't as prevalent there.
Last edited by Mattio; 01-19-2019 at 01:49 PM.
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