BOS Reserve
01-20-2019, 07:17 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by Mattio
The loopholes jumped off the page for me the first time I looked at the TA... I've heard of some pretty sweet systems at other companies, not sure if they're still the same but it would be pretty easy to get reserve to be great.
Not that easy to get the company to agree to it, I concede. Then again, voting yes to the first TA doesn't help. Maybe I'll be in a place in my life where I can get more involved in the union during the next round of negotiations. If I can't count on the pilots to vote rationally then maybe I can assist the guys who are writing the TA in hopes of getting a better one in the first place.
Not that easy to get the company to agree to it, I concede. Then again, voting yes to the first TA doesn't help. Maybe I'll be in a place in my life where I can get more involved in the union during the next round of negotiations. If I can't count on the pilots to vote rationally then maybe I can assist the guys who are writing the TA in hopes of getting a better one in the first place.
Do you know any of the guys that wrote the TA? I do and they are some of the most honest men I have ever met. You would have had you went to a road show or even ONE union meeting. I went to the BOS union meeting a couple of weeks after the AIP dropped. BD was at several of them as well. I knew it was going to get voted in easily because no one was there (25 ish). Historically pilots go to union meetings when they are angry and want to slam their fists on the pulpit. This NEVER happened. The roads shows were a huge success as well the picket.
You as you say may be in a better place down the road to help. No one else i.e union volunteers or union members had nothing else to do....JUST YOU.
It is your career and livelihood yet not important this time., our FIRST foundational contract. Well played. Brilliant decision making.
Please come save us idiots, clearly WE could not possibly know what you know.
01-20-2019, 07:20 AM
#32
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Originally Posted by Mattio
The loopholes jumped off the page for me the first time I looked at the TA... I've heard of some pretty sweet systems at other companies, not sure if they're still the same but it would be pretty easy to get reserve to be great.
Not that easy to get the company to agree to it, I concede. Then again, voting yes to the first TA doesn't help. Maybe I'll be in a place in my life where I can get more involved in the union during the next round of negotiations. If I can't count on the pilots to vote rationally then maybe I can assist the guys who are writing the TA in hopes of getting a better one in the first place.
Not that easy to get the company to agree to it, I concede. Then again, voting yes to the first TA doesn't help. Maybe I'll be in a place in my life where I can get more involved in the union during the next round of negotiations. If I can't count on the pilots to vote rationally then maybe I can assist the guys who are writing the TA in hopes of getting a better one in the first place.
01-20-2019, 07:27 AM
#33
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
You'll be going into negotiations with 75% of your limbs tied behind your back thanks to this pilot group.
01-20-2019, 09:10 AM
#34
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Originally Posted by hyperboy
POG. You are so much more angry on APC than in real life. I’m burning my own dung to Keep warm during the toughest of times.
01-20-2019, 11:05 AM
#37
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Originally Posted by WhistlePig
Can you provide examples?
01-20-2019, 11:30 AM
#39
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Originally Posted by Mattio
Also, a new one: The union recently sent out an email saying the company has been trying to adjust RAP end times after they've already been issued so they can start folks earlier on the following day. Currently, they're not allowed to do this without pilot consent due to FSM protections. However, I was unable to find similar protections in the CBA. I hope I'm wrong but I've looked through the CBA for this protection twice now. Why does the FSM have a protection that the CBA doesn't? I don't want to keep speaking to loopholes online because I don't want to help the company find ones they're not already aware of. I'm sure they're already aware of this particular one, though.
01-20-2019, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Ted Striker
Call fatigued if you’re fatigued. Circadian flips. Day 1 start at 10am , released early, now with a 2am RAP day two. Seems a bit unreasonable to be able to now fall asleep at 6pm. The only way they’ll stop these rediculous tactics is if enough people just call it what it is.... unsafe. Whether it’s legal per the contract or not, it does not just automatically make it “safe”.
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