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BeatNavy 06-20-2019 01:10 PM

PM sent with more, but all else being equal I'd take JB not commuting over a legacy with a commute. But over 30 years, bases will open and close, mergers and bankruptcies will happen, contracts will evolve and get better/worse relative to others, so a good plan now will most definitely look different in 5/10/20/30 years.

PasserOGas 06-20-2019 01:23 PM

If you come here just know that you have settled for less pay for the rest of your life. Demanding pay rates and profit sharing equal to your peers is unacceptable. The laws of nature demand that we make less. If you don't like it apply at AA.

360KIAS 06-20-2019 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by PasserOGas (Post 2840387)
If you come here just know that you have settled for less pay for the rest of your life. Demanding pay rates and profit sharing equal to your peers is unacceptable. The laws of nature demand that we make less. If you don't like it apply at AA.

Fighting for higher pay is not unacceptable. Joining forces, uniting for a cause like improved work conditions or higher pay, that is a good thing.

Whining about one's station in life on an anonymous internet forum is juvenile at best.

pilotpayne 06-20-2019 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by PasserOGas (Post 2840387)
If you come here just know that you have settled for less pay for the rest of your life. Demanding pay rates and profit sharing equal to your peers is unacceptable. The laws of nature demand that we make less. If you don't like it apply at AA.

So you settled?

rvr1800 06-20-2019 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by PasserOGas (Post 2840387)
If you come here just know that you have settled for less pay for the rest of your life. Demanding pay rates and profit sharing equal to your peers is unacceptable. The laws of nature demand that we make less. If you don't like it apply at AA.

Do these posts make you feel better? Maybe you could start your own thread where you post stuff like this and just get it all out of the way so we can actually have productive conversations.

To the OP, what’s your time worth to you? Commuting will be an extra few days away from home. Is that worth the extra money? I’d need over $50k a year extra to go back to commuting and I’m not sure that would be enough.

PasserOGas 06-20-2019 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by pilotpayne (Post 2840503)
So you settled?

I should have included the /sarcasm. Sorry. If you come here be prepared to listen to nonsensical arguments like that.

360KIAS 06-20-2019 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by PasserOGas (Post 2840535)
I should have included the /sarcasm. Sorry. If you come here be prepared to listen to nonsensical arguments like that.

Perhaps if you'd post less nonsensically, we'd not have to determine what was believable and what was jusy blather?

Just be real with your advice to others, as in the advice YOU'D want to receive if making a major life decision. (Or don't post at all, if you have nothing of value to add). Not everyone who comes to this forum for real advice knows to ignore you like others of us.

Many people do use these forums for info and advice, something that used to be easier to come by.

PasserOGas 06-20-2019 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by 360KIAS (Post 2840539)
Perhaps if you'd post less nonsensically, we'd not have to determine what was believable and what was jusy blather?

Just be real with your advice to others, as in the advice YOU'D want to receive if making a major life decision. (Or don't post at all, if you have nothing of value to add). Not everyone who comes to this forum for real advice knows to ignore you like others of us.

Many people do use these forums for info and advice, something that used to be easier to come by.

Dude, you've been at JetBlue a week. You have no idea what you are talking about.

If you come here just know what you are getting into. You will be flying with a bunch of low expectation pilots. Your contract will always lag due to this fact.

It's what I wish someone would have told me. Go to Delta. Avoid this place; and if you get hired keep your apps out and leave.

seekingblue 06-21-2019 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by PasserOGas (Post 2840562)
Dude, you've been at JetBlue a week. You have no idea what you are talking about.

If you come here just know what you are getting into. You will be flying with a bunch of low expectation pilots. Your contract will always lag due to this fact.

It's what I wish someone would have told me. Go to Delta. Avoid this place; and if you get hired keep your apps out and leave.

Dude.


Clearly we disagree on quite a bit. But honestly, this job isn't worth it if it makes you miserable. Even taking the seniority hit and going to DL/AA/UAL might be worth it for you if you are this unhappy.

I'm smart enough that I could find another job in another career field if I wasnt happy here. I think you are smart enough as well.

Maybe it's time to rethink your career expectations/ choices? You are both appathetic and angry. Maybe some self refection would be good for you?

PasserOGas 06-21-2019 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by seekingblue (Post 2840674)
Dude.


Clearly we disagree on quite a bit. But honestly, this job isn't worth it if it makes you miserable. Even taking the seniority hit and going to DL/AA/UAL might be worth it for you if you are this unhappy.

I'm smart enough that I could find another job in another career field if I wasnt happy here. I think you are smart enough as well.

Maybe it's time to rethink your career expectations/ choices? You are both appathetic and angry. Maybe some self refection would be good for you?

In case the OP is still around, this is the old "If you don't like working for less apply to AA." argument I told you about.

It comes in many flavors. Some are angry, some condescending. The most effective (I have noticed) is when they try to make themselves sound reasonable and that they are just trying to "help".

If you want to make me happy stop voting in terrible CBAs. Draw a line in the sand and don't cross it for a COLA adjustment. Then I can finally be happy, since it's so important to you.


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