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360KIAS 06-22-2019 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by PasserOGas (Post 2841421)
95 new aircraft is BEST CASE. Most likely some A320s will be retired. Also, this place has been deferring aircraft to improve short term profit margins. 95 aircraft is 33% in 6 years or around 4.5%/year (compounding). JetBlue deferments are a near certainty so knock off around 1.5% for our slowing growth trajectory.

Best case 4.5%. If you plan on best case with JetBlue you will regret it. In any case 3000 pilots will not be below you in 5 years.

If we hire 3000 it will be because 2000 moved on to real airlines.

With an average attrition over the past 5 years of 84, it would take about 23.8 years to achieve your projection of 2000 losses.

Temocil27 06-22-2019 11:11 AM

OP- I lived in base while working for JB and quit to be a commuter with FedEx. I was 30, married, with a kid. I was flying with CA's that were a few years older than me and also living in base. So, seniority list progression was a big factor in my decision. Also, JB flies monotonous routes and, coupled with the drive to/from the airport made for some exhausting days. Lastly, the pay was pretty low compared to my alternative. I didnt want to have to pick up VDA, sell back PTO, or live on Flica looking for open time. So I quit and have no regrats.

aldonite7667 06-22-2019 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by Temocil27 (Post 2841436)
OP- I lived in base while working for JB and quit to be a commuter with FedEx. I was 30, married, with a kid. I was flying with CA's that were a few years older than me and also living in base. So, seniority list progression was a big factor in my decision. Also, JB flies monotonous routes and, coupled with the drive to/from the airport made for some exhausting days. Lastly, the pay was pretty low compared to my alternative. I didnt want to have to pick up VDA, sell back PTO, or live on Flica looking for open time. So I quit and have no regrats.

Flying to work blows... best of luck.

Bluedriver 06-22-2019 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by aldonite7667 (Post 2841439)
Flying to work blows... best of luck.

Why so judgy? I think he's LIVING his choice and says no regrets.

PasserOGas 06-22-2019 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by Temocil27 (Post 2841436)
I didnt want to have to pick up VDA, sell back PTO, or live on Flica looking for open time. So I quit and have no regrats.

Really? None? Not even one? :D

https://youtu.be/VKUu0jfpEzI

texpilot 06-22-2019 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2841448)
Why so judgy? I think he's LIVING his choice and says no regrets.

Actually, he said "So I quit and have no regrats." :-)

Tex

360KIAS 06-22-2019 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by Temocil27 (Post 2841436)
OP- I lived in base while working for JB and quit to be a commuter with FedEx. I was 30, married, with a kid. I was flying with CA's that were a few years older than me and also living in base. So, seniority list progression was a big factor in my decision. Also, JB flies monotonous routes and, coupled with the drive to/from the airport made for some exhausting days. Lastly, the pay was pretty low compared to my alternative. I didnt want to have to pick up VDA, sell back PTO, or live on Flica looking for open time. So I quit and have no regrats.

Mind telling us where you lived and were based at B6?

FDX is probably the one place I'd make an exception for when it comes to commuting. I have a friend there who flies the 75, and his schedule is nothing short of amazing, he works 6-8 days a month, with zero redeyes. (Then again, he commutes on his own metal, and the flight and drive are less than an hour combined). And the ability to specify which extra pay assignments one wants on their day off... unheard of anywhere else that I know of!

Good for you getting to FDX, glad to see a fellow pilot moving on to a better schedule and happier times (and pay, too!).

aldonite7667 06-22-2019 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2841448)
Why so judgy? I think he's LIVING his choice and says no regrets.

Not judgey... I think it’s great.

Temocil27 06-22-2019 12:56 PM

I was BOS 190. Started on the 757 at FedEx now im on the 767. The commutes are fairly painless compared to the suck that is jumpseating on the pax carriers (even worse if your commute is offline!)

SaturnV 06-22-2019 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by 360KIAS (Post 2841458)
Mind telling us where you lived and were based at B6?

FDX is probably the one place I'd make an exception for when it comes to commuting. I have a friend there who flies the 75, and his schedule is nothing short of amazing, he works 6-8 days a month, with zero redeyes. (Then again, he commutes on his own metal, and the flight and drive are less than an hour combined). And the ability to specify which extra pay assignments one wants on their day off... unheard of anywhere else that I know of!

Good for you getting to FDX, glad to see a fellow pilot moving on to a better schedule and happier times (and pay, too!).

I agree FedEX is an awesome gig from what buddies have told me once you get some seniority to avoid the nasty hub turns in and out of MEM with sits from midnight to 3am on the 757. That being said, with regards to your friend working 8 days a month. My understanding is their min day is 6 hours. So I’m guessing he is getting premium trips on those 8 days a month??? Otherwise even at 7 hours min a day that’s only 56 hours a month. A year 4 757 FO at $155/hr at 56 hours a month could easily be matched by a year 4 JB 320 FO at $151/hr.

Anyways, FedEX is an awesome place to be an airline pilot from what I hear but only really starts to pull ahaead big time in my opinion if you take advantage of the quick 757 upgrade (<2 years) or go into the Widebodies ASAP. I understand hanging out in the right seat of the 75 gets you out of the hub turns and great quality life, but from a pay perspective it seems to me to be the same as flying a NB at the Major PAX carriers.


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