Just don't a major type salary or benefits...

 

Again, why the incremental difference between DAL and B6?

 

What are you asking me? Why does Delta get paid more?

Perhaps their company has been around much longer and is much bigger and more profitable?

 

Because you don't know why as evidenced by your reflex response above while at the same time you keep telling those of us who are unhappy to leave.

 

Age of company in relation to pay is mostly irrelevant, assuming the company is well-established, which JetBlue is. This isn’t a startup anymore. Jetblue has also had a larger profit margin than other companies. It made more money per seat per departure than any other airline at one point in negotiations (I think that’s recently decreased due to poor performance however). In other words, they could afford to pay its pilots industry leading pay and still make a ton of money. While delta makes more overall money, they also have a lot more pilots to pay. What matters is the margin, or per capita revenue/profit. And JB has been one of the most consistently and most profitable airlines. During negotiations, the company never once said they couldn’t afford every ALPA ask. They just didn’t want to pay for it. They worded it as “we want to retain our competitive advantage and keep our costs down.” But when asked directly, they never once used the “We can’t afford to pay you industry leading pay” line that is so often spouted by company defenders who are just happy to be here and are fine working for less.

You’re new so you get a pass...but don’t buy that line for a second. Jetblue can absolutely afford to pay us in line with our legacy/SWA peers. Pilot pay has never bankrupted a company, despite management wanting you to believe it has or will. Nor will it limit growth opportunities. Keep in mind, jetblue recently bought back what, $1.5 billion in stock? If jetblue couldn’t afford to pay us industry leading pay, they also couldn’t afford to buy back that much stock. Nor could they afford to buy the majority of its A321s with cash.

 

The reason is simple.

Management keeps changing the formula.

Up until 2006, the formula was simple.

15% of pre-tax profit divided by company-wide eligible earnings = profit sharing percentage. Basically the standard formula across airlines and other industries.

Then the monkey business started.

It changed to:

15% of pre-tax profit divided by company-wide eligible earnings = profit-sharing percentage - 500 basis points (5% cliff).

Then it changed again:

10% of pre-tax profit divided by company-wide eligible earnings = profit-sharing percentage - 500 basis points (5% cliff).

That is what turned what should have been 8.7% into 0.02%. Not the size of DAL compared to BlueJet or the age difference. Greed and then blame-shifting that the gullible swallow hook line and sinker.

But we have some newbie pointing to the size of DAL as the reason. Talk about mouth wide open and ready for the juice.

Learn your history before dropping your: "if you don't like it leave" BS. It's old and the company is not waiting for the pilot group to smarten up. They have time to wait!!!

Why pilots continually work against themselves and trust those how are not in their ranks is extremely strange. They must screen for that trait.

Drop it!

 

It's not 0.02%.

 

0.2%

Or

0.02.

Take your pick

Should have been 8.7%

 

Come on, you're trying to make JetBlue look bad by being off by 18/100ths of a percentage point.

If things are so bad here why don't you just leave, and let us be happy and content with the scraps we get?

 

0.002, 0.02 or 0.2% all looks the same on an iPhone screen.

In our paycheck, the 8.5% we lost is very noticeable.

But only if we had DAL size or age we could have a real profit-sharing plan.

If only. [/sarcasm]

Targeted selection at its finest!