Finally Europe Is A Reality
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#12
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I still need to see more details beyond a few vague Reuters articles. This makes very little sense considering the recent A321LR order. I realize getting access to preferred London airports has been challenging, but this is surprising if true. Again - I’d like to see more details.
On a side note, I heard a rumor that JB was exploring the option of using an A220-300 on flights into London City (LCY). I thought the A220-300 was too big for the smallish LCY ramp? Would be interesting if true.
On a side note, I heard a rumor that JB was exploring the option of using an A220-300 on flights into London City (LCY). I thought the A220-300 was too big for the smallish LCY ramp? Would be interesting if true.
#14
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You're confusing Norwegian Air Shuttle and Norwegian Air International.
NAI was the scab wagon and isn't operating across the Atlantic anymore.
Now, I understand that rage is the thing these days and we're living in a post truth world, and further that it's reasonable to be frustrated by NAI, but emotion doesn't replace facts. Norwegian pilots in Europe are union pilots.
https://norwegianpilotgroup.org/
NAI was the scab wagon and isn't operating across the Atlantic anymore.
Now, I understand that rage is the thing these days and we're living in a post truth world, and further that it's reasonable to be frustrated by NAI, but emotion doesn't replace facts. Norwegian pilots in Europe are union pilots.
https://norwegianpilotgroup.org/
Now why did you go and stop him
#15
Edit- It should also be noted that on some of the Danish professional pilot social media groups, it is being reported that Norwegian has been pursing this for quite some time, but JetBlue was holding off until they saw some more positive financial information. So if those sources are to be believed, and I have no real information as to the credibility of the claims, JetBlue may have seen information they have liked that made them feel more secure in pursuing this deal.
#16
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It’s hilarious how from one week to the next you have people posting “Deny NAI” on their Facebook and then the following defending the code share. Facts:
-NAI circumvented labor law to save on benefits.
-Pilots from different bases have been whipsawed against each other to the point where a 787 captain is making around 12k/month or less.
-flight attendants are recruited from 3rd world countries and are paid at third world rates while working with Europeans making European wages.
This company, along with others, have made contracts in Europe go from far exceeding wages in the United States, to barely rivaling wages in Asia and in comparison to China, fall outrageously short. Companies in Europe are downsizing and closing left and right due to high taxes and the unfair competition due to unethical labor practices. Now, we are code sharing with this organization.
-NAI circumvented labor law to save on benefits.
-Pilots from different bases have been whipsawed against each other to the point where a 787 captain is making around 12k/month or less.
-flight attendants are recruited from 3rd world countries and are paid at third world rates while working with Europeans making European wages.
This company, along with others, have made contracts in Europe go from far exceeding wages in the United States, to barely rivaling wages in Asia and in comparison to China, fall outrageously short. Companies in Europe are downsizing and closing left and right due to high taxes and the unfair competition due to unethical labor practices. Now, we are code sharing with this organization.
#17
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I still need to see more details beyond a few vague Reuters articles. This makes very little sense considering the recent A321LR order. I realize getting access to preferred London airports has been challenging, but this is surprising if true. Again - I’d like to see more details.
On a side note, I heard a rumor that JB was exploring the option of using an A220-300 on flights into London City (LCY). I thought the A220-300 was too big for the smallish LCY ramp? Would be interesting if true.
On a side note, I heard a rumor that JB was exploring the option of using an A220-300 on flights into London City (LCY). I thought the A220-300 was too big for the smallish LCY ramp? Would be interesting if true.
#18
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Why aren’t JB pilots doing this international flying? I thought there was scope protection for this? Or because they called it a “code share” its allowed?
#20
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The two carriers are almost nothing alike, but this actually might not be a stupid move, especially as slots in LHR are so hard to come by.
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