Finally Europe Is A Reality
10-19-2019, 10:13 PM
#51
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Joined APC: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,067
Originally Posted by mkfmbos
I’ll break it down for you since you are confused. See if you can spot the difference.
American Airlines is From America
Japan Airlines is from Japan
Singapore Airlines is from Singapore
British Airways is from Britain
South African Airways is from South Africa
Air Canada is from Canada
Norwegian Air International is from Dublin?!?!?
You are spending a lot of time justifying why it is okay to work for 50% less than your peers. Some “TRIs” at Delta are making north of 600k. 787 UAL captains are making $353/hr. What’s a NAI captain make? Anywhere close? NOPE! Positive pressure my a**. Europe is a ****sandwich. My guess is you’ve burnt some bridges, maybe have some legal issues, or an ex wife that will ruin you if you come back.
By the way, been on reserve the last two months. Enjoying my 1 day on, 10 days off schedule.
American Airlines is From America
Japan Airlines is from Japan
Singapore Airlines is from Singapore
British Airways is from Britain
South African Airways is from South Africa
Air Canada is from Canada
Norwegian Air International is from Dublin?!?!?
You are spending a lot of time justifying why it is okay to work for 50% less than your peers. Some “TRIs” at Delta are making north of 600k. 787 UAL captains are making $353/hr. What’s a NAI captain make? Anywhere close? NOPE! Positive pressure my a**. Europe is a ****sandwich. My guess is you’ve burnt some bridges, maybe have some legal issues, or an ex wife that will ruin you if you come back.
By the way, been on reserve the last two months. Enjoying my 1 day on, 10 days off schedule.
Lufthansa is from Germany but operates AOCs in Germany, Switzerland, Belgium, Austria, and Italy.
TUI is a Germany company but operates AOCs in Germany, UK, Belgium, Netherlands, and Sweden.
Avianca is a Columbian airline but operates AOCs in Columbia, El Salvador, Peru, Guatemala, Honduras, and Costa Rica.
See what is happening here? All of these companies operate(d) multiple AOCs in multiple countries, and all of them operate(d) to the United States. Where is your opposition to them? Oh...I guess you either didn't know about them or they don't fit your anger narrative so you chose to conveniently ignore them.
As far as compensation, you are not comparing apples to apples. Norwegian's market is not the domestic U.S. market. Comparing Norwegian with other European operators, they are right in the middle, not the best, but far from the worst. But I am curious, how does JetBlue compensation compare to AA, DL, and UA? Hang on, I'll check...Oops, I guess I need to apologize, you truly are an expert on undercutting. I will defer to your expertise from now on.
I do find it funny that your world view is so narrow that the only way you can conceive of a person being happy and living quite comfortably outside of the United States is if they have legal issues. Do yourself a favor and turn off Fox News and utilize your travel benefits and see the world a little bit. It is not nearly as scary as you seem to think it is.
10-19-2019, 10:28 PM
#52
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Joined APC: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,067
Originally Posted by Andy
Young man, your perspective is extremely warped. You are more than a little out of touch with reality. I find it amusing; others likely question your mental health. I can only imagine what your neighbors say about you when you're not present.
I have never put you on ignore; you are so completely out of touch with reality that I find you hilarious. Comedy gold.
By the way, you're not current and I doubt many carriers would touch you with your resume.
I have never put you on ignore; you are so completely out of touch with reality that I find you hilarious. Comedy gold.
By the way, you're not current and I doubt many carriers would touch you with your resume.
Speaking of reality, have you seen what the market looks like these days? Even in Europe I am routinely asked if I am interested some current flying opportunities, in fact just on Tuesday of last week I was asked about considering direct entry captain position on an A320 job, being home based as well. That is to say nothing of the current U.S. market where all you need is a pulse to get hired. Seriously, get out and take a look at what the market is like right now. In the mean time I am quite happy being home every night, pocketing my 20% pension, enjoying my six weeks of annual vacation, and taking weekend trips to Paris, Rome, London, and the Swiss alps. Yep, I must be mentally ill...
10-20-2019, 05:27 AM
#54
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Joined APC: Jun 2017
Position: B767
Posts: 376
Originally Posted by NEDude
Thomas Cook was from the UK, but operated AOCs in the UK, Spain, Belgium, Denmark, Germany, and Canada.
Lufthansa is from Germany but operates AOCs in Germany, Switzerland, Belgium, Austria, and Italy.
TUI is a Germany company but operates AOCs in Germany, UK, Belgium, Netherlands, and Sweden.
Avianca is a Columbian airline but operates AOCs in Columbia, El Salvador, Peru, Guatemala, Honduras, and Costa Rica.
See what is happening here? All of these companies operate(d) multiple AOCs in multiple countries, and all of them operate(d) to the United States. Where is your opposition to them? Oh...I guess you either didn't know about them or they don't fit your anger narrative so you chose to conveniently ignore them.
As far as compensation, you are not comparing apples to apples. Norwegian's market is not the domestic U.S. market. Comparing Norwegian with other European operators, they are right in the middle, not the best, but far from the worst. But I am curious, how does JetBlue compensation compare to AA, DL, and UA? Hang on, I'll check...Oops, I guess I need to apologize, you truly are an expert on undercutting. I will defer to your expertise from now on.
I do find it funny that your world view is so narrow that the only way you can conceive of a person being happy and living quite comfortably outside of the United States is if they have legal issues. Do yourself a favor and turn off Fox News and utilize your travel benefits and see the world a little bit. It is not nearly as scary as you seem to think it is.
Lufthansa is from Germany but operates AOCs in Germany, Switzerland, Belgium, Austria, and Italy.
TUI is a Germany company but operates AOCs in Germany, UK, Belgium, Netherlands, and Sweden.
Avianca is a Columbian airline but operates AOCs in Columbia, El Salvador, Peru, Guatemala, Honduras, and Costa Rica.
See what is happening here? All of these companies operate(d) multiple AOCs in multiple countries, and all of them operate(d) to the United States. Where is your opposition to them? Oh...I guess you either didn't know about them or they don't fit your anger narrative so you chose to conveniently ignore them.
As far as compensation, you are not comparing apples to apples. Norwegian's market is not the domestic U.S. market. Comparing Norwegian with other European operators, they are right in the middle, not the best, but far from the worst. But I am curious, how does JetBlue compensation compare to AA, DL, and UA? Hang on, I'll check...Oops, I guess I need to apologize, you truly are an expert on undercutting. I will defer to your expertise from now on.
I do find it funny that your world view is so narrow that the only way you can conceive of a person being happy and living quite comfortably outside of the United States is if they have legal issues. Do yourself a favor and turn off Fox News and utilize your travel benefits and see the world a little bit. It is not nearly as scary as you seem to think it is.
Hella SMH.
10-20-2019, 05:41 AM
#55
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Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Posts: 2,918
Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
Oh brother... I ignored the ugly dog face years ago on that sight. He’s probably one of the reasons it turned into a ghost town.
10-20-2019, 07:44 PM
#58
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Joined APC: Sep 2019
Posts: 302
Originally Posted by NEDude
What is your reality? I have lived and worked on three continents, I am willing to bet I have a much better touch with reality than you. Living and working among multiple cultures tends to do that. I bet you are like some distant relatives I have who live in rural Wyoming. Most of them have rarely left Wyoming, and those who have have only made a few trips to Denver or Salt Lake City. They are so convinced they know how the world operates, how things work, and what other places are like. I have never met people so self assured of their world view, and convinced that others who actually have seen the world are totally crazy. I bet you are like them, happily living in your ignorant bliss and convinced that anyone who has actually seen another part of the world is crazy.
Speaking of reality, have you seen what the market looks like these days? Even in Europe I am routinely asked if I am interested some current flying opportunities, in fact just on Tuesday of last week I was asked about considering direct entry captain position on an A320 job, being home based as well. That is to say nothing of the current U.S. market where all you need is a pulse to get hired. Seriously, get out and take a look at what the market is like right now. In the mean time I am quite happy being home every night, pocketing my 20% pension, enjoying my six weeks of annual vacation, and taking weekend trips to Paris, Rome, London, and the Swiss alps. Yep, I must be mentally ill...
Speaking of reality, have you seen what the market looks like these days? Even in Europe I am routinely asked if I am interested some current flying opportunities, in fact just on Tuesday of last week I was asked about considering direct entry captain position on an A320 job, being home based as well. That is to say nothing of the current U.S. market where all you need is a pulse to get hired. Seriously, get out and take a look at what the market is like right now. In the mean time I am quite happy being home every night, pocketing my 20% pension, enjoying my six weeks of annual vacation, and taking weekend trips to Paris, Rome, London, and the Swiss alps. Yep, I must be mentally ill...
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