M0derator

Highest of the three is the way I interpret that. Meaning whatever our higher water mark is over the time period becomes our min at look back time, no? I freely admit I’m not a contract lawyer.

And there’s this:

f. The number of Active Pilots shall not be reduced due to the JB-AA Commercial Agreement.

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The number of active pilots will be reduced to being overstaffed, not due to the agreement...that is the weakest language in the TA, and if you can’t even see through that language..well...you are special.

Bgood

I would completely disregard this statement if I were you.
Company: "we have to furlough due to weak revenue"

Ok done. All they have to do is state ANY other reason than what you stated above and it's in compliance.

M0derator

Do you have the ability to respond without insults? And you wonder why it’s just the same 5 people posting here.

RegionalRetread

There was already discussions of the next wave of CARES money months before the first pot expired. There were clear signs the next pot was going to get approved for election bonus points.

My crystal ball is just as cloudy as yours. I plan for the worst and the weak language allows for a lot of worst. All your reasons to not furlough pilots are pointless if there’s no pax flying. What market share of the industry are they worried about if we are only at 30-35% pax count in the industry from 2019 levels? Sure furloughs are expensive but again if there’s no pax, they will make the money back in the year+ they will trickle the pilots back to meet the growth metrics and cover retirements. We’ve already had a massive system displacement/rebid. I have no doubt there’s already been some “right sizing.” All they are concerned about right now is stopping the hemorrhaging right now. The cost of bringing people back will be washed on the balance sheet if/when the pax return. This summer is dead. 2021 holidays might see a glimmer of hope. Come April/May without LOA 13, we are a year away from needing 4000 pilots. Almost long enough to justify the furloughs. Come Nov when we don’t meet the revenue metric with LOA 13, they will have 6 plus months to offset a good portion of the furlough cost until they start the trickle back.

WhistlePig

Where do you get 6 months for the bottom 500? Not the CBA. They also aren’t paying any benefits to the furloughed pilots. 16% 401K match for instance among other savings. They don’t have to save a mint, just 1 cent. If it saves one penny, they will furlough.

M0derator

There’s nothing to stop them from furloughing without LOA 13 too.

The ASM, block hour, and head count requirements force more protections than we have currently.

SaintNick

All those are reset this year... and the head count doesn’t matter if they rehire everyone by 2025.... it’s not hard dude.

RegionalRetread

No they don’t. Those metrics are based on 2021. The bar hasn’t been set yet. The company literally has a blank slate to write the numbers the want to meet.

AYLflyer

Yep, I think i said it in another thread, but we're at the 1 year mark of this Covid stuff. If in the past year you haven't been saving money for a furlough then you done goofed. Everyone has different financial situations, but there's no excuse at this point. I don't remember another time in aviation history when we actually knew furlough was X months down the road. For the record, I'm an FO with lower level seniority, so it's not even like I'm earning those Captain bucks yet.