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Old 05-23-2022, 01:31 PM
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Whoever wrote that "response" is an idiot. I'm assuming it's an attorney but where the hell did they take the Bar? Haiti? I predict no matter how this goes down there will be new SEC regulations written and MBA courses on how to get a cushy BOD job and not to put yourself into jeopardy of being sodomized in a prison shower.
are you referring Ben Baldanzas cushy BOD job at B6? After being dispatched from here he just happens to get a BOD at B6, perhaps to shed insight into spirits inner workings and growth strategies? Seems legit and not a conflict at all.

And Spirit will have 5 BOD seats at the post merger F9. But they voted 9-0 in favor ? Why then did the 4 who are left with no board seat still vote no?
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Old 05-23-2022, 01:37 PM
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are you referring Ben Baldanzas cushy BOD job at B6? After being dispatched from here he just happens to get a BOD at B6, perhaps to shed insight into spirits inner workings and growth strategies? Seems legit and not a conflict at all.

And Spirit will have 5 BOD seats at the post merger F9. But they voted 9-0 in favor ? Why then did the 4 who are left with no board seat still vote no?

On the call Spirit CEO mentioned how the pilots will benefit for more QOL thanks to more bases. He mentioned zero about pay parity. You would think Spirit pilots would pefer to sit and the table next to JBU.
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Old 05-23-2022, 01:46 PM
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On the call Spirit CEO mentioned how the pilots will benefit for more QOL thanks to more bases. He mentioned zero about pay parity. You would think Spirit pilots would pefer to sit and the table next to JBU.
That’s not surprising to me at all. I’d highly expect him to not mention anything about pay. Like many guys in these chats that get upset about negotiating in public, and rightly so, that would be equivalent of him doing the same. He’s gonna keep anything CBA related close to the chest. Both F9 and NK are tough partners when it comes to the negotiating. No secret there. Sometimes the devil you know is better than the one you don’t..

and thankfully all this is now in the hands of the shareholders. The owners of the company will decide which way they wanna go .. not the BOD, not the CEOs, not the lawyers. The voters will decide
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Old 05-23-2022, 02:51 PM
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On the call Spirit CEO mentioned how the pilots will benefit for more QOL thanks to more bases. He mentioned zero about pay parity. You would think Spirit pilots would pefer to sit and the table next to JBU.
I listened to the call and rolled my eyes when I heard Teddy’s response. His head is in the sand with his fingers in his ears singing lalalalalalalalalalalalala…..
I haven’t voted yet, but his denial or outright rejection on the circumstances around pilot retention are steering me in a certain direction…
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Old 05-23-2022, 02:53 PM
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Someone is lying. Zero proof of who. Seems you picked the narrative that soothes you. Seems to me one side has much more motivation to lie than the other.
There is a direct quote from Robin on the last bullet point.
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Old 05-23-2022, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Tranquility View Post
I listened to the call and rolled my eyes when I heard Teddy’s response. His head is in the sand with his fingers in his ears singing lalalalalalalalalalalalala…..
I haven’t voted yet, but his denial or outright rejection on the circumstances around pilot retention are steering me in a certain direction…
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Old 05-23-2022, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyGuy2002 View Post
That’s not surprising to me at all. I’d highly expect him to not mention anything about pay. Like many guys in these chats that get upset about negotiating in public, and rightly so, that would be equivalent of him doing the same. He’s gonna keep anything CBA related close to the chest. Both F9 and NK are tough partners when it comes to the negotiating. No secret there. Sometimes the devil you know is better than the one you don’t..

and thankfully all this is now in the hands of the shareholders. The owners of the company will decide which way they wanna go .. not the BOD, not the CEOs, not the lawyers. The voters will decide
Playing hardball in negotiations this time around will be very dumb. If Delta, SW, AA, and Alaska all up the bar from what United just TA'd even more of the Spirit's, F9 and B6's seniority list could jump ship and be better off very quickly. Playing hard ball to save a few percent may mean no growth or even shrinking.
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Old 05-23-2022, 05:59 PM
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Y’all realize your votes mean nothing, right?
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Old 05-23-2022, 06:10 PM
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You've misunderstood the thrust of my comment. B6 employees, have erroneously stated that B6 has long coveted NK. This is false. They only pounced when they realized it would be a competitive threat. The tales we tell ourselves to suit the narrative we are most comfortable with is ingrained in the human psyche.

How do you know the spirit guys are telling the truth?
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Old 05-23-2022, 06:12 PM
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Someone is lying. Zero proof of who. Seems you picked the narrative that soothes you. Seems to me one side has much more motivation to lie than the other.

This.
Any pilot knows it’s management so obviously both sides are lying
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