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07-29-2022, 09:58 PM

#351

Lincoln Osiris

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Originally Posted by Titan08

This is not our first union contract. Spirit pilots were union pilots well before jetblue.

I think I am confused I thought he was talking about Spirit not using JB for a contract comparison back in '16

07-29-2022, 09:59 PM

#352

Titan08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris

I think I am confused I thought he was talking about Spirit not using JB for a contract comparison back in '16

I read it wrong.

07-30-2022, 05:14 AM

#353

Bgood

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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris

I think I am confused I thought he was talking about Spirit not using JB for a contract comparison back in '16

Other way around, I believe 8JRM is an NK fellow pilot.

07-30-2022, 08:31 AM

#354

Lincoln Osiris

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Originally Posted by Bgood

Other way around, I believe 8JRM is an NK fellow pilot.

Okay good now everyone is confused

07-30-2022, 08:52 AM

#355

symbian simian

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris

Why would we have used you guys as a comparison when you didn't even have a union contract until 2018?

Because their FIRST contract is at least as good as ours?

Edit, I know I am...

07-30-2022, 10:17 AM

#356

Macjet

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Originally Posted by Sludgefund

Jetblue will deploy assets to capture best return of capital.
Everything else is theater

https://viewfromthewing.com/instead-...line-business/

07-30-2022, 10:32 AM

#357

Flyby1206

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Macjet

https://viewfromthewing.com/instead-...line-business/

lmao, this author should pivot away from the keyboard.

Quote:

JetBlue should consider pivoting away from the airline business if they can’t earn a good rate of return in the airline business. Surely they’d even do better for shareholders by giving the cash used in the Spirit deal to Jack Bogle.

07-30-2022, 10:36 AM

#358

8JRMfortheyear

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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris

Okay good now everyone is confused

I was referring to the jetblue guys giving spirit MEC and pilot group to much credit. Our cba that 70% voted for was so bad that b6 didn’t even use NK for comparison.

07-30-2022, 12:25 PM

#359

Macjet

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Originally Posted by Flyby1206

lmao, this author should pivot away from the keyboard.

Maybe not, SAVE does appear to have a better track record on higher margins. A bigger Spirit looks like it would be more profitable than a larger jetBlue.

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/s...comp=JBLU:SAVE

07-30-2022, 12:44 PM

#360

Flyby1206

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Originally Posted by Macjet

can spirit double in size and maintain margins? I’d bet no. If an airline stands still and doesn’t grow then CASM increases rapidly. At some point the ULCC model is forced to evolve into a higher cost one.