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Originally Posted by Cockpit997
(Post 3481594)
You’re right, you should leave.
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Originally Posted by Cockpit997
(Post 3481594)
You’re right, you should leave.
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Most of this is wrong it’s 80 hours after your finish LOE after 45 days it’s 70 hours per the MOU. I know it’s not 80 hours after 45 days for sure (unless you finish LOE)
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Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer
(Post 3481545)
What you made at your regional is sort of meaningless. People get hung up on those numbers from decades ago and think they somehow should still apply. What is the pay at regional now, today? (Honest question.)
My understanding is that the pay is comparable to Jetblue, only at some regionals you have better movement, no redeyes, and flow to a real airline with good pay, profit sharing, and wide bodies, and more importantly, a pilot group that values itself. |
Originally Posted by Roy Biggins
(Post 3481890)
I can get on JB for a lot of things, but this isn’t necessarily one of them. Compared to other airlines, this was more or less on par. As far as comparing to a regional, gtfoh with that nonsense. Stay at your regional then. Of course, times are quickly changing, so JB will have to step up their game if they expect to keep up with the airlines they’re competing with. Robin wants an expedited integration of 12-18 months. Our Union has a ton of leverage to fix a lot of things in the upcoming JCBA. Hopefully we don’t squander this opportunity.
The regionals are on par with B6 now if you account for bonuses. I have been here a very long time unfortunately, and am too old for it to make sense to leave. That being said, if I were a 20 something with an offer from B6 and an offer from Envoy, I'd have to think really hard about it. Like it or not, that is where we stand now. |
Originally Posted by ComanchePilot
(Post 3481540)
It’s only for 6 weeks, regardless of how long training takes. And during that six weeks (and the entirety of your training), you are provided a hotel room in the company lodge, and three meals a day in the company cafeteria.
It’s true those first three paychecks are paltry ($2000/mo pretax means semimonthly net pay of about $685)! But it is made up for on day 46, when you start earning $95/hr x 80 hrs/month. That’s 150% what I made at my regional... and second year pay will be double what I made there. |
Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer
(Post 3481913)
The regionals are on par with B6 now if you account for bonuses. I have been here a very long time unfortunately, and am too old for it to make sense to leave. That being said, if I were a 20 something with an offer from B6 and an offer from Envoy, I'd have to think really hard about it.
Like it or not, that is where we stand now. I thought the regional stuff was only temporarily to stop them from jumping ship and saying for the flow. It’s nice If your there at envoy or can make a lateral move but when the bonus ends you are better off at b6 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by TangoIndiaMike1
(Post 3482037)
I thought the regional stuff was only temporarily to stop them from jumping ship and saying for the flow. It’s nice If your there at envoy or can make a lateral move but when the bonus ends you are better off at b6
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I'm not so sure. With our current seniority stagnation and potential for shrinkage if retention isn't fixed a new hire here could be on short call working weekend redeyes for a very long time. At least at Envoy you get some TPIC and QOL improves with time. |
Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer
(Post 3482072)
I'm not so sure. With our current seniority stagnation and potential for shrinkage if retention isn't fixed a new hire here could be on short call working weekend redeyes for a very long time. At least at Envoy you get some TPIC and QOL improves with time.
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Originally Posted by Cockpit997
(Post 3482073)
I flew with a guy that was at express jet for 19 years. Good luck with your plan
Home an average of 23 days a month, raising his kids, making enough money. What’s your point? Different strokes and all that. Yeah, eventually the mainline job is better, but everyone’s situation is different. |
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