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avi8orco 08-31-2022 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by PotatoChip (Post 3485076)
You do realize people have families? Or are you that singleminded?

It’s something they look at now for hiring criteria…the MEC insists.

TORSV 08-31-2022 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by avi8orco (Post 3487157)
It’s something they look at now for hiring criteria…the MEC insists.

Is this something they are looking at changing? This is a big factor in people deciding to even come here.

Roy Biggins 08-31-2022 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by TORSV (Post 3487207)
Is this something they are looking at changing? This is a big factor in people deciding to even come here.

Career progression and base structure are big factors when deciding to come here. Training pay for 6 weeks is not. Gmafb.

Boomer 08-31-2022 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by Roy Biggins (Post 3487243)
Career progression and base structure are big factors when deciding to come here. Training pay for 6 weeks is not. Gmafb.

Training pay and uniform shortages probably don’t rate very high on the list when deciding on an airline.

However, they probably play a factor when you’ve been here two months and you get a call from Delta.

gibmaerd 08-31-2022 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by Roy Biggins (Post 3487243)
Career progression and base structure are big factors when deciding to come here. Training pay for 6 weeks is not. Gmafb.

well in terms of career progression, delta does have better career progression right now on multiple aircraft so what’s your point.

Cockpit997 09-01-2022 04:41 AM

Training pay sucks the fun out of getting a new job. It’s bad for morale.

nene 09-01-2022 05:14 AM


Originally Posted by Cockpit997 (Post 3487676)
Training pay sucks the fun out of getting a new job. It’s bad for morale.

Airline contracts are like big cargo ships. They have momentum and take quite a while to turn around, especially now that you have a CBA. For decades, pilots were so ecstatic to get hired by a major that they accepted what is now considered substandard.

Delta didn't pay for hotels during training in ATL (everyone's first base on paper) until the last hiring boom.

AA used to charge new pilots to JS on their own airline even to go to/from work if there was a seat available in back until like 6yr pay.

United used to pull a pilots out of CASS (JS access) if they went on mil leave over 30 days requiring some reservists I served with to use buddy passes to get home after serving in the desert and then drilling away from their base.

Heck, regional pilots used to "pay to play" ie bankroll their own new hiring training to get the first job.

I know all these facts seem atrocious and preposterous by todays standards, but when the industry has a glut of labor and lack of demand the situation can get ugly, quickly.

Bottom line is over the last decade these policies have all gone the way of the dodo and hopefully with enough pressure JB will change training pay to a more reasonable amount.

QueueWings 10-25-2022 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by ComanchePilot (Post 3481540)
It’s only for 6 weeks, regardless of how long training takes. And during that six weeks (and the entirety of your training), you are provided a hotel room in the company lodge, and three meals a day in the company cafeteria.

It’s true those first three paychecks are paltry ($2000/mo pretax means semimonthly net pay of about $685)! But it is made up for on day 46, when you start earning $95/hr x 80 hrs/month. That’s 150% what I made at my regional... and second year pay will be double what I made there.

Class date of 11/2. Was wondering about the 3 meals a day provided. Is that provided for free, or available for you to purchase? Trying to plan financially for the training pay. Thanks!

Vailacs 10-25-2022 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by QueueWings (Post 3519937)
Class date of 11/2. Was wondering about the 3 meals a day provided. Is that provided for free, or available for you to purchase? Trying to plan financially for the training pay. Thanks!

At the Lodge you get like 28ish bucks a day on file to spend how you see fit. The meals are set up to equal that amount. Im not a breakfast guy so usually spent extra on candy drinks jerky snacks etc. Or grab a pizza or salad or something


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