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gibmaerd 08-15-2022 09:47 AM

Training pay
 
So from what I’m aware is 2k a month but just had a couple questions. Is that before or after taxes? Also is this pay until you finish OE? If so how long is the delay for OE right now? Thanks again any info I’d appreciated

Vailacs 08-15-2022 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by gibmaerd (Post 3477897)
So from what I’m aware is 2k a month but just had a couple questions. Is that before or after taxes? Also is this pay until you finish OE? If so how long is the delay for OE right now? Thanks again any info I’d appreciated

LOE or 45 days whichever is first. And its 2k before taxes.

MinFlyer 08-15-2022 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by gibmaerd (Post 3477897)
So from what I’m aware is 2k a month but just had a couple questions. Is that before or after taxes? Also is this pay until you finish OE? If so how long is the delay for OE right now? Thanks again any info I’d appreciated

2k is pretax…woof. It lasts 6 weeks, then it goes to training pay which is 80 hours at $94/hour. OE wait times vary by airframe and base. 220 Boston had little wait recently and 320 JFK over 6 weeks.

gibmaerd 08-15-2022 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by MinFlyer (Post 3478034)
2k is pretax…woof. It lasts 6 weeks, then it goes to training pay which is 80 hours at $94/hour. OE wait times vary by airframe and base. 220 Boston had little wait recently and 320 JFK over 6 weeks.

awesome thanks for the info

aewanabe 08-21-2022 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by MinFlyer (Post 3478034)
2k is pretax…woof. It lasts 6 weeks, then it goes to training pay which is 80 hours at $94/hour. OE wait times vary by airframe and base. 220 Boston had little wait recently and 320 JFK over 6 weeks.

Training pay is BS and one of the reasons I voted no to our CBA (as a 9 year CA at the time). This crap needs to disappear with CBA2 or the JCBA

gibmaerd 08-21-2022 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by aewanabe (Post 3481273)
Training pay is BS and one of the reasons I voted no to our CBA (as a 9 year CA at the time). This crap needs to disappear with CBA2 or the JCBA

yea man I’ll be honest this is pretty bad. Regionals aren’t even this bad

ComanchePilot 08-22-2022 04:56 AM

It’s only for 6 weeks, regardless of how long training takes. And during that six weeks (and the entirety of your training), you are provided a hotel room in the company lodge, and three meals a day in the company cafeteria.

It’s true those first three paychecks are paltry ($2000/mo pretax means semimonthly net pay of about $685)! But it is made up for on day 46, when you start earning $95/hr x 80 hrs/month. That’s 150% what I made at my regional... and second year pay will be double what I made there.

MainlineFlyer 08-22-2022 05:13 AM


Originally Posted by ComanchePilot (Post 3481540)
It’s only for 6 weeks, regardless of how long training takes. And during that six weeks (and the entirety of your training), you are provided a hotel room in the company lodge, and three meals a day in the company cafeteria.

It’s true those first three paychecks are paltry ($2000/mo pretax means semimonthly net pay of about $685)! But it is made up for on day 46, when you start earning $95/hr x 80 hrs/month. That’s 150% what I made at my regional... and second year pay will be double what I made there.


What you made at your regional is sort of meaningless. People get hung up on those numbers from decades ago and think they somehow should still apply. What is the pay at regional now, today? (Honest question.)

My understanding is that the pay is comparable to Jetblue, only at some regionals you have better movement, no redeyes, and flow to a real airline with good pay, profit sharing, and wide bodies, and more importantly, a pilot group that values itself.

PotatoChip 08-22-2022 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by ComanchePilot (Post 3481540)
It’s only for 6 weeks, regardless of how long training takes. And during that six weeks (and the entirety of your training), you are provided a hotel room in the company lodge, and three meals a day in the company cafeteria.

It’s true those first three paychecks are paltry ($2000/mo pretax means semimonthly net pay of about $685)! But it is made up for on day 46, when you start earning $95/hr x 80 hrs/month. That’s 150% what I made at my regional... and second year pay will be double what I made there.

It's not "made up for" later. It's appalling and industry trailing. You shouldn't be celebrating it because it's more than you made at your regional.

Cockpit997 08-22-2022 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by PotatoChip (Post 3481592)
It's not "made up for" later. It's appalling and industry trailing. You shouldn't be celebrating it because it's more than you made at your regional.

You’re right, you should leave.


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