AA to match DAL pay
03-09-2023 | 01:34 AM
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AA to match DAL pay
...AND adopt their profit sharing formula.
Not that it matters since PS isnt "real pay" according to B6ALPA. Their CEO is probably doing this as a charity move since pilots don't have any leverage right now.
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/03/08/...ay-raises.html
Not that it matters since PS isnt "real pay" according to B6ALPA. Their CEO is probably doing this as a charity move since pilots don't have any leverage right now.
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/03/08/...ay-raises.html
03-09-2023 | 03:04 AM
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...AND adopt their profit sharing formula.
Not that it matters since PS isnt "real pay" according to B6ALPA. Their CEO is probably doing this as a charity move since pilots don't have any leverage right now.
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/03/08/...ay-raises.html
Not that it matters since PS isnt "real pay" according to B6ALPA. Their CEO is probably doing this as a charity move since pilots don't have any leverage right now.
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/03/08/...ay-raises.html
03-09-2023 | 05:22 AM
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This is their CEO blatantly saying to the pilots "I know all you care about is hourly numbers, here ya go". It's so predictable and funny that of course people here will think this is a good move.
QOL is everything. Give me industry leading work rules and I'll make the money I need to make with it, or have a better at home QOL. It's like back at the regionals where nobody could see past 1st year pay and would take a good pay rate and accept an absolute stinking pile of work rules.
Let the union do it's thing.
03-09-2023 | 05:48 AM
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Problem is, pilots justify accepting sub standard pay, PS and 401K by touting QOL "gains" that either can be manipulated by the company once implemented or only can be enjoyed by a small amount of the pilot group. The answer is pay/PS/401K parity with the top airlines in the industry AND work for those QOL issues people tout so often as their holy grail. Shouldn't be one or the other.
03-09-2023 | 06:25 AM
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Problem is, pilots justify accepting sub standard pay, PS and 401K by touting QOL "gains" that either can be manipulated by the company once implemented or only can be enjoyed by a small amount of the pilot group. The answer is pay/PS/401K parity with the top airlines in the industry AND work for those QOL issues people tout so often as their holy grail. Shouldn't be one or the other.
Case in point: “Industry leading pairing construction” allowing in base over nights. Saving the company 100m a year estimated.
03-09-2023 | 06:39 AM
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And killing the high time, productive day turns and turning them into min pay 3/4 day pairings. So this causes senior pilots to bid different pairing than they used to causing a decrease in QOL/productivity for almost everyone. But yeah, let's just focus on work rules and QOL initiatives most will never see and accept bottom of the peer group pay instead.
03-09-2023 | 06:58 AM
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Problem is, pilots justify accepting sub standard pay, PS and 401K by touting QOL "gains" that either can be manipulated by the company once implemented or only can be enjoyed by a small amount of the pilot group. The answer is pay/PS/401K parity with the top airlines in the industry AND work for those QOL issues people tout so often as their holy grail. Shouldn't be one or the other.
03-09-2023 | 07:12 AM
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And killing the high time, productive day turns and turning them into min pay 3/4 day pairings. So this causes senior pilots to bid different pairing than they used to causing a decrease in QOL/productivity for almost everyone. But yeah, let's just focus on work rules and QOL initiatives most will never see and accept bottom of the peer group pay instead.
I’m advocating this part of your comment. I’m tired of self funding raises.
“The answer is pay/PS/401K parity with the top airlines in the industry AND work for those QOL issues.”
I see this raise as nothing more than them giving us back part of the money they saved since I think June? For destroying the pairings. Nothing more except high fives at the top levels of both organizations.
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