You are speaking as if LOA19 is going to make VILs a permanent fixture….. it is not!

 

VILs for up to two years I believe. Other contract gains are permanent.

We were told by some of our "smart" pilots on this board that pushing for profit sharing improvements was a waste of time, because the company would never give it to us. I'm glad so many pilots made it a priority and JBALPA kept up the fight. The fight isn't over, but I believe we are 2/3 there. The single largest problem with our PS plan will soon be dead.

​​​​​I give the company (and JBALPA) credit on this development. They moved off of their "non-starter", which will finally align the company's financial interests with the employees financial interests. It was the right thing to do. It took way too long, but they have moved in the right direction which will long term create better financial performance (Delta has proven this) and will restore a lot of goodwill within the workforce that has been lost (destroyed really, by bad leadership). We all get to have our own opinions, but for me they have bought back some of the goodwill they had lost. It will be up to them if they are able to buy back more.

The new MRA snap-up formula, while not perfect, sets a new much higher floor (A320 CA of ~$356 I believe) for JCBA or independent negotiations. Same is true for the new 17% retirement contribution. All of this should help marginally in the SLI as well.

 

Ha, nothing like DTZ. The VIL lets you drop to zero for the month, but still get PAID 50 hours!

 

I agree with you …. I was only cautioning Bgood that VILs are not a permanent fixture and was a HUGE help to Mgt to adapt to our temporary issues through the next year or two, and as such we made solid gains in exchange for the flexibility we gave them. This is what I expect from a NC faced with an ask for relief and as such I have a glimmer of hope moving forward with this NC whereas before I had none.

 

I agree, my comments weren't directed at you. Just hadn't heard anyone talk about the two year limit on VILs and then went on a rant. 😂

 

You’re comparing VILs with DTZ now? What a stupid, disingenuous comparison of two completely different things.

 

Haha no worries. I hope the NC can continue to restore our confidence! It’s amazing what turning down the first off like they did this summer will get you if the other side really wants something. I want everyone to remember the Company initially tried to get the ability to save a ton of $$ by flexing their staffing with VILs and asking to waive ALV/TLV/Scheduling for a standing up of a LAS base for NOTHING in return. This LOA19 is the result of turning down the 1st offer when you have leverage, the other side comes back with a better offer !

 

As I understand it, the company offered to open LAS, and wanted in exchange PERMANENT relief from the ALV/TLV/and maybe some scheduling provisions, not just for the new LAS base, but systemwide. I wasn't told the exact relief sought, only that it was systemwide and permanent! Um, NO! ABSOLUTELY NOT.

 

I'm fuzzy on the snap-up formula. It's still an average of UA, AA, DL, and AS, no? So what kind of % increase can we actually expect next August?

In general this seems like a big win. It's down the road a little, but it's all positive.

 

If SWA doesn't get a deal, I think the maffs have us at $356 12 year A320CA