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Old 10-07-2023 | 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue Dude
It's not up to the NC to give direction, or reject or accept negotiated terms. They've been doing their role all along. It's the MEC reps who you've apparently had issues with, not the NC.
Well then I guess I rescind my praise for the Negotiating Committee under its new leadership, must have had no influence on the matter and all credit goes to the MEC. All kidding aside yes I’m happy to see the changes in them MEC reps as well which no doubt contributed to this outcome.

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Old 10-07-2023 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by DontCallMeCindy
Can’t wait for the inevitable rebuttal from an outlier Spirit pilot, where they attempt to explain how DTZ is still superior to having VIL @ 50-hours credit in trough months (at our vastly higher payrates, which will also be adjusting to market rate sans SWA in a year)
DTZ is actually way better than a VIL. With DTZ, you can drop everything (as long as you are a lineholder) and then if you want to pick up a 2-day trip and get paid just 10 hours for the month, you can do that! You can't do that on a 50 hour VIL!
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Old 10-07-2023 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
DTZ is actually way better than a VIL. With DTZ, you can drop everything (as long as you are a lineholder) and then if you want to pick up a 2-day trip and get paid just 10 hours for the month, you can do that! You can't do that on a 50 hour VIL!

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Old 10-07-2023 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Desdi
Well then I guess I rescind my praise for the Negotiating Committee under its new leadership, must have had no influence on the matter and all credit goes to the MEC. All kidding aside yes I’m happy to see the changes in them MEC reps as well which no doubt contributed to this outcome.
The NC gets all credit but none of the blame. Opposite for the MEC.
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Old 10-07-2023 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
WRT profit sharing, all 3 legacies now use the same formula to determine the pool, 10% of first 2.5B in profits, 20% of anything over that threshold.

no clue how Alaska and southwest do it.

Congrats, sounds like a win for you guys.
BlueJet's PS is a 10% plan. The 20% trigger is words on a paper. We will never achieve it.
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Old 10-07-2023 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue Dude
The NC gets all credit but none of the blame. Opposite for the MEC.
And yet I routinely blamed them in the past as well…. It’s all good. I just have much more faith in both my MEC and NC moving forward than I’ve had since the the moment the past NC reached a TA and the MEC canceled the second picket …. I feel like I’ve been continuously been gaslit, had expectations raised and immediately lowered so fast ive been suffering from multiple counts of whiplash ever since. All the same I hope to keep this newfound confidence in both until they prove me otherwise….. fair enough?!
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Old 10-07-2023 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Desdi
And yet I routinely blamed them in the past as well…. It’s all good. I just have much more faith in both my MEC and NC moving forward than I’ve had since the the moment the past NC reached a TA and the MEC canceled the second picket …. I feel like I’ve been continuously been gaslit, had expectations raised and immediately lowered so fast ive been suffering from multiple counts of whiplash ever since. All the same I hope to keep this newfound confidence in both until they prove me otherwise….. fair enough?!
I'm okay either way, just wanted to shift blame away from the NC and onto the decision makers where it belongs.
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Old 10-08-2023 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MergingTargets
So for those of us who aren't 1%ers... that's like... an extra snack box per trip?
This may have been a throwaway comment, but just to be clear—if you spend 30 years at JB, 19 of those years will be at year 12 rates—so they impact everyone who is here to stay. That’s not always obvious, so I thought I’d clarify. We are ALL the 1% of which you speak, in the blink of an eye with respect to an airline career.
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Old 10-08-2023 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by antbar01
This may have been a throwaway comment, but just to be clear—if you spend 30 years at JB, 19 of those years will be at year 12 rates—so they impact everyone who is here to stay. That’s not always obvious, so I thought I’d clarify. We are ALL the 1% of which you speak, in the blink of an eye with respect to an airline career.
So. Very. True.
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Old 10-09-2023 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
If SWA doesn't get a deal, I think the maffs have us at $356 12 year A320CA
So when does JCBA negotiating start if/when Judge approves NK/B6 merger? (it should be determined sometime in Dec if a deal isn't reached before). I am guessing we would get our last raise during negotiations (8/1/24) for JCBA. Does anyone expect the top end pay rate $356 from LOA 19 to be the top end pay for our new JCBA year one?
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