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Old 01-17-2024 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
I still think Chap 7 is far less likely than Chap 11. And they can't "buy the pilots." Not only does the 13th Amendment outlaw that, they will already have bailed while the bankruptcy process is ongoing. Those things take forever.
Weird how I've been reading for the last three years about the coming RJ implosion.
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Old 01-17-2024 | 12:03 PM
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I was thinking this as well. JetBlue would probably buy as many of Spirit's planes as it could and could also offer a preferential hiring scheme for Spirit employees.
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Old 01-17-2024 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Round Luggage
Weird how I've been reading for the last three years about the coming RJ implosion.
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And yet his “castle” is imploding all around him. Anyone who takes his predictions seriously gets what they deserve.
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Old 01-17-2024 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BusBoi
I was thinking this as well. JetBlue would probably buy as many of Spirit's planes as it could and could also offer a preferential hiring scheme for Spirit employees.
Preferential hiring probably. But in no way SLI.
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Old 01-17-2024 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CareerPivot
Preferential hiring probably. But in no way SLI.
Correct. I was thinking maybe a certain amount of longevity credit and highest seniority within your new hire class.
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Old 01-17-2024 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Round Luggage
Weird how I've been reading for the last three years about the coming RJ implosion.
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The big boyz have an incentivize to keep the regionals limping along until better days.
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Old 01-17-2024 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CareerPivot
Preferential hiring probably. But in no way SLI.
An acquisition and JCBA/SLI could actually occur during (or after) Ch.11, if it made sense to all participants including creditors and judge.

Ch.7 probably not, at that point it's planes, gates, and slots on the discount rack. Preferential hiring with maybe longevity credit would make a lot of sense... with enough folks coming from the same airline, it would be worth setting up a short transition course, vice full training footprint. Might even be able to do the training via classroom or CBT, with no sim.
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Old 01-17-2024 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BusBoi
Correct. I was thinking maybe a certain amount of longevity credit and highest seniority within your new hire class.
Of all the options out there, why would an NK guy/gal choose to interview at B6 over any of the other four? I was looking forward to the merger but I don't see what B6 can offer a new hire.
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Old 01-17-2024 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
That's a very common scope clause these days (lesson learned the hard way in the olden days).

It's also 100% worthless in bankruptcy... the entire CBA is on the butcher's block. Maybe 90% worthless, the court will have some slight consideration for unsecured creditors and employees, so it's better to have the language than not. Judge might possibly factor it in. But the court and creditors are in no way obligated to honor a CBA in bankruptcy.
CBAs are not in the butchers block in Ch11. Bankruptcy court can only approve the rejection of CBA if the company can prove that such rejection is necessary for restructure, and only after the amended CBA that only contains those modifications necessary is presented to the union members.
If the union members rejects those changes without a good cause, only then the bankruptcy court can impose the adjusted CBA on the employees.

The scope which they can operate within is very narrow in Chapter 11. It is not, as commonly thought, a free-for-all smack-whack-cut right to adjust the CBA at will. This is under 11 US Code 1113.
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Old 01-17-2024 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Macjet
Of all the options out there, why would an NK guy/gal choose to interview at B6 over any of the other four? I was looking forward to the merger but I don't see what B6 can offer a new hire.
Different people may have their reasons, like bases, getting rejected by other airlines, etc. I know a Spirit pilot that recently interviewed at both DL and UA and was turned down by both.
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