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Old 01-17-2024 | 05:28 AM
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https://www.flightglobal.com/strateg...156512.article


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Industry analysts describe a relatively bleak future for Spirit in particular.

”We believe this is a positive for JetBlue, as business at Spirit turned negative between the time the merger was announced to now,” writes TD Cowen aviation analyst and managing director Helane Becker.
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Old 01-17-2024 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Wingtip220
https://www.flightglobal.com/strateg...156512.article


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Industry analysts describe a relatively bleak future for Spirit in particular.

”We believe this is a positive for JetBlue, as business at Spirit turned negative between the time the merger was announced to now,” writes TD Cowen aviation analyst and managing director Helane Becker.
Lots of media outlets are parroting this narrative of NK going BK, but I havent seen many other direct quotes from analysts saying the same thing. Anyone have solid evidence of others with this same thinking?
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Old 01-17-2024 | 09:13 AM
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Lots of media outlets are parroting this narrative of NK going BK, but I havent seen many other direct quotes from analysts saying the same thing. Anyone have solid evidence of others with this same thinking?

This could be plan B. Go chapter 11 and Big Blue comes in and buys the assets for a bargain.
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Old 01-17-2024 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Wingtip220
This could be plan B. Go chapter 11 and Big Blue comes in and buys the assets for a bargain.
^^^^^^^ “B”ingo

I hope it’s not really the case, and hopefully it all works out for Spirit employees, truly, but if there is any credibility to the speculation of CH 11/7, it wouldn’t surprise me if this is a major discussion in the board room, not just JetBlue’s board room either, probably F9 and others.
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Old 01-17-2024 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Wingtip220
This could be plan B. Go chapter 11 and Big Blue comes in and buys the assets for a bargain.
without the pilots? Doesn’t make much sense
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Old 01-17-2024 | 09:28 AM
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without the pilots? Doesn’t make much sense
Jetblue adjusted hiring way down for 2024 because of aircraft delivery delays. It's great to get pilots and planes, but I bet Joanna will settle for the planes.
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without the pilots? Doesn’t make much sense
I'd bet the pilots would be bought with the planes, we have a hard enough time retaining pilots too.
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Old 01-17-2024 | 09:43 AM
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I still think Chap 7 is far less likely than Chap 11. And they can't "buy the pilots." Not only does the 13th Amendment outlaw that, they will already have bailed while the bankruptcy process is ongoing. Those things take forever.
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Old 01-17-2024 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
I still think Chap 7 is far less likely than Chap 11. And they can't "buy the pilots." Not only does the 13th Amendment outlaw that, they will already have bailed while the bankruptcy process is ongoing. Those things take forever.
I hope it doesn't happen but Chapter 7 is much more likely in this environment. There will be a bidding war for airplanes and gates between all the carriers. There is a huge shortage of both. No way lessors will negotiate for lower lease payments etc in this environment. Best of luck to all the Spirit pilots.
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Old 01-17-2024 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
I still think Chap 7 is far less likely than Chap 11. And they can't "buy the pilots." Not only does the 13th Amendment outlaw that, they will already have bailed while the bankruptcy process is ongoing. Those things take forever.
The problem I see with chapter 11 is NK doesn't have high labor costs it can gut. They can trim some debt, but ultimately the biggest problem NK faces is a lack of demand for the ULCC business. And the debt they trim probably can't be aircraft related or the debtors will just take the planes back and sell them to someone else. Or the ULCC business is saturated, however you want to look at it. And all of the full service airlines are overlapping basic economy seats on important ULCC routes. BK won't fix that.
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