Game over man, game over....
04-25-2024 | 06:40 PM
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Does it say that weather or ATC delays are exempt? I doubt it. Not that I think this rule will really matter in the end. The airlines will do what airlines always do. When there’s an increase in oil prices or labor cost, they pass those costs onto the customers….same with these refunds. Customers will just be paying for travel insurance and won’t know it.
04-26-2024 | 04:51 AM
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Does it say that weather or ATC delays are exempt? I doubt it. Not that I think this rule will really matter in the end. The airlines will do what airlines always do. When there’s an increase in oil prices or labor cost, they pass those costs onto the customers….same with these refunds. Customers will just be paying for travel insurance and won’t know it.
I did fine an article on that opinion but that's just it, their opinion in an article.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox...deral-rule.amp
Again, I bet there will be a carve out for those scenarios. It's common sense that already exist in curret rules. (Yes I know it's the government
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04-26-2024 | 07:28 AM
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The ruling will go into effect in 6 months, the full document, with any exception, has not been release yet. I was scouring the web for it (tranportation.gov and regulations.gov [[color=#343f4e]docket number DOT-OST-2022-0089] ) and no joy. Only a summary of it.
I did fine an article on that opinion but that's just it, their opinion in an article.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxweather.com/lifestyle/airline-refunds-delays-federal-rule.amp
Again, I bet there will be a carve out for those scenarios. It's common sense that already exist in curret rules. (Yes I know it's the government)
I did fine an article on that opinion but that's just it, their opinion in an article.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxweather.com/lifestyle/airline-refunds-delays-federal-rule.amp
Again, I bet there will be a carve out for those scenarios. It's common sense that already exist in curret rules. (Yes I know it's the government
)https://www.regulations.gov/document...2022-0089-5343
04-26-2024 | 09:45 AM
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Looks like the final rule starts on pg. 246 of the pdf.
Interesting that the definition of "significant change" references scheduled delays, but not actual delays (unless I'm missing something?). I wonder if airlines can get around the whole rule just by leaving the schedule as is and letting the flight run hours late? Reading the comments and responses to the proposed rule, it's clear that's not the intent, but I'm surprised the DOT didn't throw something in there about the time that the flight actually departs or arrives.
Interesting that the definition of "significant change" references scheduled delays, but not actual delays (unless I'm missing something?). I wonder if airlines can get around the whole rule just by leaving the schedule as is and letting the flight run hours late? Reading the comments and responses to the proposed rule, it's clear that's not the intent, but I'm surprised the DOT didn't throw something in there about the time that the flight actually departs or arrives.
04-29-2024 | 12:44 PM
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Personally, I thought it was positive. Everyone wants to know what the plan is. They're not gonna say, "we're adding fleet-wide Mint, adding Mint lounges, and spending a bunch of money" when they just announced a full-year loss. Makes sense to delay that kind of announcement. So what can they talk about and focus on? I thought the email did a pretty good job of that. Also, aknowledging that we're getting raises, and deserve those raises, and they need to make more money to pay for those raises. Sounds good to me.
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