View Poll Results: B6 Merger poll
Southwest with Jetblue
40
13.75%
American with Jetblue
38
13.06%
Alaska with Jetblue
57
19.59%
Jetblue with NK and Frontier
40
13.75%
Merger / Acquisition Unlikely
116
39.86%
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B6 Merger Poll
11-16-2024 | 12:19 PM
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From: A220 CA
11-16-2024 | 09:05 PM
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careful don't want to hurt thier feelings.
Very different business models and beliefs at the managemnt level. JetBlue doesnt mind paying big bucks for gate space, landing rights, and all other high upfront costs...........think JFK, LAX, SFO, EWR, DCA, LHR, AMS. (They just seek opportunites to take money from work groups and save on labor)
Where as Southwest has completely left EWR and possibly other high cost airports and usually if serving a large market is more concentrated in the smaller/cheaper place ........HOB not IAH, MDW not ORD, LGB not LAX, BWI not IAD, DAL not DFW.......if they had the opportunity to fly to London......it sure would be LGW...I dont see them paying for LHR.
Very different business models and beliefs at the managemnt level. JetBlue doesnt mind paying big bucks for gate space, landing rights, and all other high upfront costs...........think JFK, LAX, SFO, EWR, DCA, LHR, AMS. (They just seek opportunites to take money from work groups and save on labor)
Where as Southwest has completely left EWR and possibly other high cost airports and usually if serving a large market is more concentrated in the smaller/cheaper place ........HOB not IAH, MDW not ORD, LGB not LAX, BWI not IAD, DAL not DFW.......if they had the opportunity to fly to London......it sure would be LGW...I dont see them paying for LHR.
11-17-2024 | 01:38 PM
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Houston Hobby I’m assuming.
This is a moot discussion. The real airlines have JetBlue’s number. A la Spirit, just let B6 die or shrink to irrelevance. In 10 years if JetBlue is still around it will be a strictly niche vacation airline, 2000 pilots total.
This is a moot discussion. The real airlines have JetBlue’s number. A la Spirit, just let B6 die or shrink to irrelevance. In 10 years if JetBlue is still around it will be a strictly niche vacation airline, 2000 pilots total.
11-17-2024 | 05:48 PM
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A lot of A220s and some A321 NEOs.....
11-17-2024 | 09:14 PM
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“Just let”
What does that even mean? Who would just let JetBlue do that? That doesn’t make any sense. Most of your posts are pessimistic which seems to have clouded your judgement.
11-18-2024 | 06:19 AM
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Perhaps your golden handcuffs cloud your own judgement.
11-18-2024 | 06:51 AM
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As an eternal optimist myself, I must ask you, has the company realistically given us much reason to be anything other than pessimistic? We're about to see a huge displacement bid, LAX is 200% overstaffed which is going to roil east coast seniority lists, they've given up on the west coast market in the hopes that Puerto Rico and Islip can save us, we've deferred deliveries, taken out a sizeable loan to "keep the lights on", through no fault of our own we can't get ahead of the engine issue, we have an activist investor whose own company losses will almost certainly push them to prove to their investors that they still exhibit control over their portfolio and would be smart to follow a similar path as Elliott -- after all, they are here to turn a profit on their investment. Need I continue?
Perhaps your golden handcuffs cloud your own judgement.
Perhaps your golden handcuffs cloud your own judgement.
There’s a happy in-between, and predicting JetBlue will be a 2000 pilot mini airline in 10 years is not a neutral-sentiment prediction. That’s all. Being pessimistic is bad for one’s health. The right place to be in right in the middle. That’s how things usually work out.
11-18-2024 | 06:58 AM
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There’s a happy in-between, and predicting JetBlue will be a 2000 pilot mini airline in 10 years is not a neutral-sentiment prediction. That’s all. Being pessimistic is bad for one’s health. The right place to be in right in the middle. That’s how things usually work out.
11-18-2024 | 07:29 AM
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It'll probably be more of a 4000 pilot group. There doesn't seem to be much of a vision beyond a leisure east coast airline. For all of Robin's failings, at least he had a larger vision of what he wanted the airline to become. Joanna just wants to roll back to 2012. Shrink and cut costs. Great....and then what?
11-18-2024 | 09:28 AM
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It'll probably be more of a 4000 pilot group. There doesn't seem to be much of a vision beyond a leisure east coast airline. For all of Robin's failings, at least he had a larger vision of what he wanted the airline to become. Joanna just wants to roll back to 2012. Shrink and cut costs. Great....and then what?
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