jblumindtrick

Initial thread secured.

FNG320

I use to have the specific numbers, but I can't find them right now. But as I remember it was approx 200 Airbus and 100 emb190s, with options for up to another 100 airbus' The total was to have up to 410 aircraft by the end of 2012 assuming we exercised all options.

As for the 190 roll out. I am extremely disappointed about it. It is my understanding that it will initially only be used to current JB cities to add frequency and to keep it close to JFK and BOS for mx issues. It may be prudent, but it is just crap. The 190 has been sold to us and the public that it will open up lost of new cities and markets, yet for the first year we won't do that. I'd call that false advertising.

Well at least the latest upgrades are 8. It is just an example of poor planning, which by the way comes from above. We try to tell them, but they don't listen to us dumb pilots (even thought most of us have one or more college degrees). Plus we are smart enought to know that getting hit by a baseaball bat hurts. So we try to not let it happen. Not Operations and Crew Services (all though crew services is only playing with what they were given, they are inefficient and don't think ahead, and like to abuse all of us and especially the reserves)

But still look at the reserves, or lack there of. It still means that there are insufficient pilots to support the actual flying we are trying to do. (the CNX of flight early in April due to no crew even though the company call it "weather", no reserves on the weekends). Its all bull. Dave Barger said the magic "I'm Sorry" last summer when there were insufficient reserves and said it would never happen again. Well, now it is not even summer and we already don't have enought reserves. Hanging on to the trailing edge of the wing is no way to run the show, and that is what we are doing right now. Every time there is IROP we go right to the edge and now have started to fall. Hang on.....

On a side note, I am glad to see Crew Services looking for vollenteers to help fill reserve shortages with dedicated lines. I'd like to know where the idea came from (QSO?). If it is working then great, but if it is not, then they should up the credit to 6+ ours per day to really draw in the vollenteers.


Just my opinion....


FNG

Lennon

This is what I had saved from a post on flightinfo:

2004: A320 - 69
2005: A320 - 84, E190 - 7
2006: A320 - 101, E190 - 25
2007: A320 - 118, E190 - 43
2008: A320 - 135, E190 - 61
2009: A320 - 153, E190 - 79
2010: A320 - 171, E190 - 97
2011: A320 - 183, E190 - 100

There are no firm orders past 2011

FWIW

kinetic

Hello to all of you conspiracy theorists..

bluerthanyou

Kinnetic
There are over 80 posts on this forum. I hope that you don't consider every one a conspiracy theory. I've never read a forum that doesn't get a little outside the box but this one seems to have some pretty good info.
Maybe you would care to contribute to some of the less controversial threads.

banger

I heard today that of 25 new hires contacted, 9 chose the 190 over the 320 even knowing they would have to wait and recieve a lower seniority number.

Lennon

Pretty sad, isn't it?

I had a bid in for it at a very high percentage number. I deleted the bid because I'm afraid I might get what I ask for.

jblumindtrick

Does anyone know what the A320 upgrade time for a newhire is these days? I am just curious as to why people are passing up seniority?