Real easy to say things are great when a lot of what's wrong with this place doesn't apply to you (reserve, vacation, lack of pay that you make up for because you get more time off than most and don't need extra vacation, low credit trips, and you probably pick up RSAs/VDAs). Keepsgettingbetter

Also, what does this mean?

Sigh. Not sure what you were trying to prove there, but it appears you did the opposite.

I was trying to figure that out as well. Pretty sure for this freak, Payne and Southern, jetblew is the best airline they have worked for and they really don't have anything to compare it to. Sad, but explains much.

Assuming all SW pilots fly 4-5 leg days is equivalent to saying all Blue pilots fly nothing but red eyes. I like how juicers try to deal in absolutes only when it suits their plot.

True. They have a wide variety of trips. My buddy does transcons, 1 leg a day, maybe 2. It all depends on what you want.

It's false equivalents like those that give cover to management for undercompensating us and treating us like children. So frustrating. But we all know management people post on these boards trying to subvert our unity.

I'm confused, do you have vacation "over" the summer or do you sell vacation back?

Things are getting better because some of your class made captain? Delta has 9 month upgrades and one of the best contracts in the industry. Our upgrade is 5+ years now and going north rapidly! Better!!!?!?!?

You've had several pay raises since you got here? EVERY. SINGLE. RAISE. has kept you below industry standard, NOT TO MENTION below industry retirement, rigs and work rules. And God forbid you get sick or have a sick kid, because you will lose a week of vacation or lose a week of vacation sell back if you do. Better!

YOU fly 11 days a month, so it's clearly getting better for all of us!

Wow.

What's aggravating to me is the mentality that the paycheck clears so this means its a great job. Jetblue pilots are overworked, poorly compensated, lack adequate retirement, medical, scope and protections.

The juicer crowd continues to post on various message board how great this place and culture is. In addition pilots who don't even fly the line(instructors, management pilots) telling the rest of us how great things are. Absolutely nauseating.

Who the **** do you think you are?

rant over. have a good weekend everyone.

If people don't like SWA, great. There are pros and cons for every shop. But don't let this 4-5 leg per day thing be the reason. The vast majority of trips have 2 -4 legs a day. A small percentage are single leg days, and a tiny fraction have >4 legs a day.

It's a big company so if you want to fly 2 long legs a day, you can do that. Want to fly 5 short ones, you can do that too.

Upgrade time is lengthy, but not terrible. Projected at around 11 years for a buddy who just got hired.

All that said, unless you live in an SWA domicile, I'd stay put. That seniority number has value. You'll have a competitive CBA before long. Hopefully it'll be better than SWA so you can participate in pattern bargaining! Keep fighting the good fight!


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You really dont know the meaning of circumspect do you? I am truly happy that you are content here, but most see B6 as a decent place to work with with inferior pay/benefits and work/reserve rules.
If you cant see that then you are either severely immature, unintelligent or lacking empathy.
My guess is that you live in base and like me, have seen some good movement in seniority. That is not the reality for many here, and better options exist out there.
Open your mind a bit HB-theres a big world out there.