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Bozo the pilot 03-06-2014 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by txbusdriver (Post 1596190)
-At second or third year pay you will make way more at legacy carriers.
-Health care is abysmal.
-Retirement is less than industry average.
-Very few retirements.
-No scope and limited job protections.

This sums up why ALPA will be on property mid-spring. Doesnt mean we're miserable, just watchin out for ourselves. Jblue couldve avoided this but put forth a tepid PEA. I actually think that theyve conceded to a union on property. It'll be an interesting time here.
And staffing in the summer will be scary. I cant see them expanding or even maintaining status quo with the upcoming attrition.

MayorBee 03-06-2014 03:38 PM

Ok,
Latest from the Women in Aviation event info being put out. Everyone waiting on calls from whatever phase of the interview process you are in should be done by April.
Hiring/training will pretty much stop through the summer months as they need all the help they can get flying.
The next hiring window will be open in July and the next Vets in Blue event will be in November.

JustAnotherPLT 03-06-2014 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by MayorBee (Post 1596847)
Ok,
Latest from the Women in Aviation event info being put out. Everyone waiting on calls from whatever phase of the interview process you are in should be done by April.
Hiring/training will pretty much stop through the summer months as they need all the help they can get flying.
The next hiring window will be open in July and the next Vets in Blue event will be in November.

What do you mean by "done by April?"

Any word on March 26th class? Have they called anyone yet for it?

MayorBee 03-06-2014 03:57 PM

Not done hiring by any means, I interpreted that to mean if you are waiting on a call from a recent interview then you should hear something by April at the latest.
Background checks seem to be the biggest hold up in the process due to waiting for responses from outside sources. (According to JB)

CaptCoolHand 03-06-2014 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by fosters (Post 1596144)
Why are people leaving so much? Where are they going? JB was my #2 choice. Their pay rates were good and they have something most majors don't, the ability to earn soft time. Like the guy above who is at 110 hours. That would be unheard of at some of the other carriers.

Guys are going to better contracts. AA, DL, UAL, SWA. nearly all of our dal furloughs went back. I would say that the only furloughs who stayed are guys who very senior or are to old to leave now.

While it's great to be able to earn 110 hours of credit, due respect when I say this, no one want to do that month after month for years. Otherwise, You get burned out angry and it's no fun. The pay scale is a small part of the puzzle. 15-20 days at home with your kids, that's worth it! Not to mention, this isn't normal credit. It's irop credit.

Bozo the pilot 03-06-2014 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand (Post 1596867)
Guys are going to better contracts. AA, DL, UAL, SWA. nearly all of our dal furloughs went back. I would say that the only furloughs who stayed are guys who very senior or are to old to leave now.

While it's great to be able to earn 110 hours of credit, due respect when I say this, no one want to do that month after month for years. Otherwise, You get burned out angry and it's no fun. The pay scale is a small part of the puzzle. 15-20 days at home with your kids, that's worth it! Not to mention, this isn't normal credit. It's irop credit.

Yup I agree- I did 120 in feb and 110 in march. April I bid min sked because home life has suffered.

Rabid Seagull 03-06-2014 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot (Post 1596879)
Yup I agree- I did 120 in feb and 110 in march. April I bid min sked because home life has suffered.

Yes, but productivity has suffered. I'll wager that your min sched bid doesn't produce many more days off. Summer will be fun, don't know if the company can keep producing 17 hour 4 days.

p.s. The union getting voted in will just be an excuse for some top execs to leave.

p.p.s Some of them should have left after the early Jan mess.

aldonite7667 03-06-2014 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by Fieldinsight (Post 1596803)
What work rules and how have those changes hurt your QOL?

We recently got an email saying that since 117 requires reserves to have 30 hrs rest before you start a block of reserve days JB now requires 48 and a maximum of 5 reserve days on. You can't manipulate your schedule at all. It used to be 6 days on 1 or so you could spend a lot of time working and then a lot of time at home.

This change was made by email without any pilot input.

Bozo the pilot 03-06-2014 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by Rabid Seagull (Post 1596922)
Yes, but productivity has suffered. I'll wager that your min sched bid doesn't produce many more days off. Summer will be fun, don't know if the company can keep producing 17 hour 4 days.

p.s. The union getting voted in will just be an excuse for some top execs to leave.

p.p.s Some of them should have left after the early Jan mess.

If I get more than 9 days off with min sked, itll be enough to save the marraige:D. Im kiddin- we're both happy with the better check.
As far as the 17 hr 4-days, theyre crap and if B6 wants to staff this airline, I agree that they'll have to give us more productive trips.

CaptCoolHand 03-06-2014 08:59 PM

Well, the no upgrade rumor was true. Supplemental bid to come out in April.

Something about super duper international captain pilots seniority list? ...seriously I dunno.

Everything else still salty.

As you were


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