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Descendto450 05-30-2022 04:05 AM


Originally Posted by FLPilot3190 (Post 3431611)
now you’re thinking like a B6 pilot! Welcome to the blue! You’ll like it here. It’s not as bad as APC makes it out to be.

fully agree with this statement don't let the 8-10 same people on here discourage you. It's a great place to show up to work, yes the operation (like the rest of the industry) is poorly run but that's a small part of the picture.. The crews are great..

SaintNick 05-30-2022 05:16 AM


Originally Posted by Descendto450 (Post 3431907)
fully agree with this statement don't let the 8-10 same people on here discourage you. It's a great place to show up to work, yes the operation (like the rest of the industry) is poorly run but that's a small part of the picture.. The crews are great..

did you just say the operation is a small part of the picture?! That actually made me laugh out loud. That is the only picture there is.

bostonpilot55 05-30-2022 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by FLPilot3190 (Post 3431611)
now you’re thinking like a B6 pilot! Welcome to the blue! You’ll like it here. It’s not as bad as APC makes it out to be.

Hell yeah. I’ve been commuting to a regional job the past 3 years so this going to be a huge QOL upgrade if I can get based in my home city. Very much looking forward to it!

Descendto450 05-30-2022 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by SaintNick (Post 3431931)
did you just say the operation is a small part of the picture?! That actually made me laugh out loud. That is the only picture there is.

lol sorry your view is so myopic. We are a secondary part of the airline. This a customer service, technology driven financial company that happens to move airplanes through the sky(once in a while). They would replace us in a heart beat with a widget if the could. Once I realized that I was much more content with our sloppy operation. We think we matter but we are about the least important department at JB.

SaintNick 05-30-2022 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by Descendto450 (Post 3431946)
lol sorry your view is so myopic. We are a secondary part of the airline. This a customer service, technology driven financial company that happens to move airplanes through the sky(once in a while). They would replace us in a heart beat with a widget if the could. Once I realized that I was much more content with our sloppy operation. We think we matter but we are about the least important department at JB.

for sure they would love to but they can’t do anything without us. So makes the whole picture about the operation. Trust me I couldn’t care less about our operation as long as I get home when I’m supposed to. If they cancel 1000 flights it doesn’t bother me at all. I do my job and my job only but when the operation goes to the toilet guess what makes the news. It isn’t the technology financial company.

Descendto450 05-30-2022 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by SaintNick (Post 3431947)
for sure they would love to but they can’t do anything without us. So makes the whole picture about the operation. Trust me I couldn’t care less about our operation as long as I get home when I’m supposed to. If they cancel 1000 flights it doesn’t bother me at all. I do my job and my job only but when the operation goes to the toilet guess what makes the news. It isn’t the technology financial company.

I'm there with you on all but the last statement. Unfortunately a customer service, technology driven financial company is all we are with a little real estate management thrown in. JB proves over and over that there is no desire to improve our operation which tells me we are not operation centric. Spend a few days in LSC and it's obvious to see operations is the "necessary evil" in upper level management's eyes..

FLPilot3190 05-30-2022 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by bostonpilot55 (Post 3431942)
Hell yeah. I’ve been commuting to a regional job the past 3 years so this going to be a huge QOL upgrade if I can get based in my home city. Very much looking forward to it!

hell, even if you don’t and have to commute for a bit it’ll still be better. We’ve had positive space commuting on a month to month basis since about January. RAPs are 10 hours, long call is 14 hour call out, and no airport reserve. If you end up on the 190 you’ll have a line in no time.

nuball5 05-30-2022 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by Descendto450 (Post 3431950)
I'm there with you on all but the last statement. Unfortunately a customer service, technology driven financial company is all we are with a little real estate management thrown in. JB proves over and over that there is no desire to improve our operation which tells me we are not operation centric. Spend a few days in LSC and it's obvious to see operations is the "necessary evil" in upper level management's eyes..


Except they scaled back their summer flying by about 10% in an effort to improve the operation, even though they knew investors would hate it. Whether it works or not is another story, but it isn’t for lack or trying or desire it seems.

Descendto450 05-30-2022 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by nuball5 (Post 3431966)
Except they scaled back their summer flying by about 10% in an effort to improve the operation, even though they knew investors would hate it. Whether it works or not is another story, but it isn’t for lack or trying or desire it seems.

Hopefully it makes a difference. I want to see our operations improve, I've just lost faith that it will. As long as some key players stay in their posts change will be difficult or not at all.

MainlineFlyer 05-30-2022 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by Descendto450 (Post 3431950)
I'm there with you on all but the last statement. Unfortunately a customer service, technology driven financial company is all we are with a little real estate management thrown in. JB proves over and over that there is no desire to improve our operation which tells me we are not operation centric. Spend a few days in LSC and it's obvious to see operations is the "necessary evil" in upper level management's eyes..

Yeah, except we have only ever thrown money away on tech ventures, and being on time is a massive part if customer service. The only place in this business that generates a profit is Ops

I'm not saying this is how B6 management thinks. They live up thier own rectum, but it is the reality. We are an airline. Nothing else.


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