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JustAnotherPLT 06-23-2015 04:31 AM

Well that announcement covers most of the rumored/internal gossip we've been hearing. I'm sure Deltas announcement kicked that one into gear.

Last two I'm hearing, ATL in the future and 321LR for longer haul routes.

Speedbird2263 06-23-2015 05:01 AM


Originally Posted by JustAnotherPLT (Post 1913035)
Well that announcement covers most of the rumored/internal gossip we've been hearing. I'm sure Deltas announcement kicked that one into gear.

Last two I'm hearing, ATL in the future and 321LR for longer haul routes.

IMHO the A321LR is almost a given. I figure B6 gets A330 like range for Western Europe and Deep South America without the associated risk and cost of the new type. I would also be much easier to fill on a route year round making it akin to what the E190 was used for; to stimulate a route before using larger guage equipment.

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JustAnotherPLT 06-23-2015 05:10 AM


Originally Posted by Speedbird2263 (Post 1913050)
IMHO the A321LR is almost a given. I figure B6 gets A330 like range for Western Europe and Deep South America without the associated risk and cost of the new type. I would also be much easier to fill on a route year round making it akin to what the E190 was used for; to stimulate a route before using larger guage equipment.

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Absolutely, if the 321LR is as good as it is on paper, I would say we won't see a wide body for some time.

As for the 190s, our pushed order will transform to the Gen2 and it'll be for replacement purposes only.

PilotJ3 06-23-2015 06:24 AM

Its Funny how Delta guys are saying that they will crush B6 in BOS.

I really think that it's just a matter of time until B6 will be just right there with the "BIG 3", but with a better customer experience.

full of luv 06-23-2015 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 1913102)
Its Funny how Delta guys are saying that they will crush B6 in BOS.

I really think that it's just a matter of time until B6 will be just right there with the "BIG 3", but with a better customer experience.

Or maybe JB's joyful codeshare with ME carriers and other odds and in airlines of the world will make it the one to pay from all the other carriers in AforA?

I guess time will tell how playing fiddle for the devil will indeed work out.

JustAnotherPLT 06-23-2015 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 1913102)
Its Funny how Delta guys are saying that they will crush B6 in BOS.

I really think that it's just a matter of time until B6 will be just right there with the "BIG 3", but with a better customer experience.

In my opinion the legacies lack in their product. I can speak more for Delta (use to fly their feeder) when I say they are way behind. Large part of their fleet has no entertainment, FAs seem bitter (see this a lot as a commuter), CR2, E145, MD88/90 back seats, and 73 are just miserable.

With that said, I give them credit on international business class but I think our mint will give them a run for their money. Delta loves used airplanes and it shows.

Jetblue has a young fleet retrofitted with top entertainment (being upgraded to 100 channels) and fast internet which you can stream Netflix, HBO etc. Even with additional seats being placed in 320 we'll have the most leg room in the industry. Our FAs while some bitter, are mostly younger, "trendier" people who seem to care. This is all my opinion and I'm sure lots will disagree. As someone who rides in the back of airplanes a lot, both commuting and as a paying passenger I notice a wide gap.

Disclaimer, JetBlue isn't perfect, I very well know.

Flyby1206 06-23-2015 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by full of luv (Post 1913122)
Or maybe JB's joyful codeshare with ME carriers and other odds and in airlines of the world will make it the one to pay from all the other carriers in AforA?

I guess time will tell how playing fiddle for the devil will indeed work out.

But AA is allowed to partner with QR and EY? I don't see you complaining on the AA threads.

Beechnut58 06-23-2015 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by JustAnotherPLT (Post 1913035)
Well that announcement covers most of the rumored/internal gossip we've been hearing. I'm sure Deltas announcement kicked that one into gear.

Last two I'm hearing, ATL in the future and 321LR for longer haul routes.

I honestly don't think the 321LR is a shoe in at this point. I was told in recurrent that it is lacking. Due to North Anericans higher average weights for passengers it won't be able to go as far as projected. And the weight of the fuel starts to cost Creep on any savings. Take it how you want. But this is what I was told. I'll be surprised based on this if we get them.

JustAnotherPLT 06-23-2015 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by Beechnut58 (Post 1913157)
I honestly don't think the 321LR is a shoe in at this point. I was told in recurrent that it is lacking. Due to North Anericans higher average weights for passengers it won't be able to go as far as projected. And the weight of the fuel starts to cost Creep on any savings. Take it how you want. But this is what I was told. I'll be surprised based on this if we get them.

Very well could be, I do know their interested but you're right, may not see them. If we don't see them we will probably see a wide body on property.

pilotpayne 06-23-2015 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 1913141)
But AA is allowed to partner with QR and EY? I don't see you complaining on the AA threads.

No problem they are AA so they get a pass. We just need gloopy here to say we are just capacity dumping and Delta will take it all back soon.


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