JetBlue Gateway Select
05-20-2018, 04:52 PM
#41
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Originally Posted by Soxfan1
Is the opinion out there of the other more traditional path gateways the same as Select as the last 4 pages indicate or is the Select just a completely seperate animal?
05-20-2018, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by todd1200
Yes, very different; IIRC, “Gateway” is simply JB-speak for a way to get an interview so I think everyone who gets hired technically came through one gateway or another.
05-22-2018, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by N10DJ
Buy an IFR C152, find an instructor and bust through most all your training minus the limited time you would have to spend in a complex for your commercial. Then sell the plane at a huge bargain if you want to get rid of the plane quick (keeping in mind how much you might have spent on maintenance along the way) and you will make out spending less than half what this or any other program like it costs.
8gph @ $6.50 for 300hrs is $15,900 spent on fuel
200 hours with a freelance instructor at $40/hr is $8000
(My guess is that 200 hours should cover flight and ground school if you study hard at home)
Now freelance in your plane..... or just sell it $10,000 marked down from what you got it at and get a job cfi’ing to build the rest of your time while gaining some valuable experience.
Congratulations you just spent about 50k for all your training when you add in ramp fees, complex aircraft time, 100hr inspections, and insurance. It would probably cost less honestly.
Good luck!!
8gph @ $6.50 for 300hrs is $15,900 spent on fuel
200 hours with a freelance instructor at $40/hr is $8000
(My guess is that 200 hours should cover flight and ground school if you study hard at home)
Now freelance in your plane..... or just sell it $10,000 marked down from what you got it at and get a job cfi’ing to build the rest of your time while gaining some valuable experience.
Congratulations you just spent about 50k for all your training when you add in ramp fees, complex aircraft time, 100hr inspections, and insurance. It would probably cost less honestly.
Good luck!!
05-22-2018, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Wkdpssa
I know I’m taking a huge risk of stirring up a hornets nest by resurrecting this thread but here goes. My son was just offered a June class date for the Gateway Select program. As a proud father (and SWA captain) I’m a little nervous about how he’ll be received by the pilot group having ‘jumped’ directly to the right seat if/when he completes this program. I am hesitant but it is his choice. Without starting a new thread on JB pilot’s feeling with the recent AIP I have to say I’m less hesitant. I’ve really enjoyed talking to all the JB pilots that have ridden on my jumpseat and believe y’all have a great product but Papa needs to hear the honest truth. Thanks in advance.
I’d tell him to go to the local FBO and get his ratings there. He can instruct, move on to Part 135, then get on at a regional for a whole lot less cash out of pocket. To entice new hires, many regionals are paying for their ATP training. He should choose a regional with a flow through to a major. I wish him well but there are much less expensive ways to achieve the same results.
05-23-2018, 06:43 AM
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I think leashing yourself to any one airline with $100K+ of debt is a bad idea. Especially now in this hiring environment.
This generation of aviators won't ever know what the last 20 years was like. We can't expect them to understand what many of us went through with furloughs and poverty wages. Hopefully they'll never have to experience that. But it's our job to make sure they have some understanding of it. It's also our job when they come on line (like it or not) to make sure they make good decisions as professional aviators.
This generation of aviators won't ever know what the last 20 years was like. We can't expect them to understand what many of us went through with furloughs and poverty wages. Hopefully they'll never have to experience that. But it's our job to make sure they have some understanding of it. It's also our job when they come on line (like it or not) to make sure they make good decisions as professional aviators.
05-23-2018, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
I think leashing yourself to any one airline with $100K+ of debt is a bad idea. Especially now in this hiring environment.
This generation of aviators won't ever know what the last 20 years was like. We can't expect them to understand what many of us went through with furloughs and poverty wages. Hopefully they'll never have to experience that. But it's our job to make sure they have some understanding of it. It's also our job when they come on line (like it or not) to make sure they make good decisions as professional aviators.
This generation of aviators won't ever know what the last 20 years was like. We can't expect them to understand what many of us went through with furloughs and poverty wages. Hopefully they'll never have to experience that. But it's our job to make sure they have some understanding of it. It's also our job when they come on line (like it or not) to make sure they make good decisions as professional aviators.
05-23-2018, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
On the other hand, there is no contract to stay with JetBlue for these guys...so they aren't really leashed. Write the check for $125k, get 1500 hours the same way every other guy does, then go straight to the right seat at JetBlue. Basically it's a regional bypass. They probably won't upgrade as fast here as they would at a regional, but if this place stalls out after a year or two here, they can put their apps in just like the regional guys.
HA! JB's new hiring slogan! We train the best RJ drivers in the business.
Pre trained in CRM and EBM systems knowledge.
Some will probably upgrade at DAL before guys here ever see the left seat of the bus.
05-23-2018, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
On the other hand, there is no contract to stay with JetBlue for these guys...so they aren't really leashed. Write the check for $125k, get 1500 hours the same way every other guy does, then go straight to the right seat at JetBlue. Basically it's a regional bypass. They probably won't upgrade as fast here as they would at a regional, but if this place stalls out after a year or two here, they can put their apps in just like the regional guys.
vs
$39, $42, $65, $71 an hour (plus 4% 401k match) at an AA Wholly Owned regional with 12 days off...
Which places better ahead financially? One would be far better equipped to tackle flight training debt and have a decent qol working at one over the other.
05-26-2018, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by contrail44
It is no longer the 90s. That's great for you but no one needs to hear about how cheap your training was 25 years ago
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