Contract Talks
01-10-2017 | 06:05 AM
#41
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You seem really upset by this idea. I wonder why. Would it maybe impact you in some way? 
By the way, publishing a list of non members hopes to accomplish the same thing, compliance through shaming. That being said, I never published a list of RSA, VDA and open time whoores. I just floated it as an idea. So you are safe to keep screwing us all over for some more JRA pay.
By the way, publishing a list of non members hopes to accomplish the same thing, compliance through shaming. That being said, I never published a list of RSA, VDA and open time whoores. I just floated it as an idea. So you are safe to keep screwing us all over for some more JRA pay.
Dude, just follow the MEC's guidance regarding negotiations.
01-10-2017 | 07:24 AM
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Passerogas, you can do whatever you want and continue to hide behind your keyboard. If you think posting such a list (for the purpose of public shaming as you said) will promote unity, then go for it. Also, if you think a thread titled "Contract Talks" isn't monitored by the company, then you're most likely mistaken.
Dude, just follow the MEC's guidance regarding negotiations.
Dude, just follow the MEC's guidance regarding negotiations.
Again, I haven't published any list. The company does through crewtrac. I'd encourage everyone to check it out!
Also, I hide behind my keyboard because I don't need to end up on the company's "must fire list". You know the one where they threaten to fire people if they don't sign false documents accusing you of something?
01-10-2017 | 10:50 AM
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Um, I hope they monitor it. It might give them some ideas about the fight they (hopefully) are in for.
Again, I haven't published any list. The company does through crewtrac. I'd encourage everyone to check it out!
Also, I hide behind my keyboard because I don't need to end up on the company's "must fire list". You know the one where they threaten to fire people if they don't sign false documents accusing you of something?
Again, I haven't published any list. The company does through crewtrac. I'd encourage everyone to check it out!
Also, I hide behind my keyboard because I don't need to end up on the company's "must fire list". You know the one where they threaten to fire people if they don't sign false documents accusing you of something?
I'm not even discussing the merits of demerits of picking up VDAs, RSAs or open time. For all you know I may even agree with you. I simply choose to follow the guidance of the people who we pay to make these decisions for us...the MEC.
Crusade away though and do whatever you think is best. Me? Well we voted in a union and I intend to let it do the job.
01-10-2017 | 01:01 PM
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I get it...you haven't published any list but I was commenting on your suggestion to do so. I just don't think that doing something like that will promote unity amongst the pilot group nor do I think that doing things that intentionally lead to promote ill will (like cancellation of flights) will be of benefit, should things go to mediation. Perhaps that's why the MEC has asked us not to discuss negotiations or tactics on sites like this.
I'm not even discussing the merits of demerits of picking up VDAs, RSAs or open time. For all you know I may even agree with you. I simply choose to follow the guidance of the people who we pay to make these decisions for us...the MEC.
Crusade away though and do whatever you think is best. Me? Well we voted in a union and I intend to let it do the job.
I'm not even discussing the merits of demerits of picking up VDAs, RSAs or open time. For all you know I may even agree with you. I simply choose to follow the guidance of the people who we pay to make these decisions for us...the MEC.
Crusade away though and do whatever you think is best. Me? Well we voted in a union and I intend to let it do the job.
But you and I as individuals can choose not to, because we are smart enough to figure out helping the company while they are messing with us is a bad idea.
01-16-2017 | 10:15 AM
#46
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No.no.
"You above all" is the slogan...
Pretty sure I watch a nana the other day miss her flight because the gate wouldn't open the door to let her on at 8 minutes prior to push time with the bridge and plane still rubbing together.
"You above all"
01-16-2017 | 11:40 AM
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How many articles have been TA'D? Also are things like improvements in benefits, work rules, and pay parity with the legacies strike items? I have to say I was shocked when I saw the health insurance stats. It's below most regionals benefits and more expensive. Just some questions from an outsider that would like to fly with you guys.
01-16-2017 | 12:25 PM
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How many articles have been TA'D? Also are things like improvements in benefits, work rules, and pay parity with the legacies strike items? I have to say I was shocked when I saw the health insurance stats. It's below most regionals benefits and more expensive. Just some questions from an outsider that would like to fly with you guys.
01-17-2017 | 11:09 AM
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Look at Delta's healthcare. It isn't much better than ours. But their pay makes up for it. Gotta look at the total package. Our total package is lacking, and in most areas. That said, I don't know many regional guys who make more than a 3 year JB pilot, regardless of healthcare costs. But we have a long way to go when comparing a JB W2 + days off to the 3 legacies/SWA unless management wants attrition to stay/grow.
I would take DALPA health care structure over ours any day.
01-25-2017 | 07:20 AM
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Look at Delta's healthcare. It isn't much better than ours. But their pay makes up for it. Gotta look at the total package. Our total package is lacking, and in most areas. That said, I don't know many regional guys who make more than a 3 year JB pilot, regardless of healthcare costs. But we have a long way to go when comparing a JB W2 + days off to the 3 legacies/SWA unless management wants attrition to stay/grow.
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