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I agree with the original posts point. Let's make this place great. Let's not cave into a crap CBA. Let's not be treated less than we are worth.
Lets be fair the applicants that have JB as their #1 as I did, because they may live in a domicile and don't want to fly 5 legs a day in an md88 or 737. Grass isn't always greener. I'll take the free uniform over having to pay close to $1000 for a descent one. I'll cross seat belts when I nonrev because I'll more than likely not be #46 on the standby list for a flight that's oversold buy 20. I'm crossing seat belts, if I have time, to help the inflight because I care more about them than I do screwing managment. I'm really happy here for now and what the future holds. A new CBA will change my views for sure. I won't complain if it's bad, I'll just leave. If it's great I'll be super pumped and hope to retire from a company called JetBlue Airways. Negotiations suck, I'm optimistic the majority of our pilot group is strong willed and we just doesn't complain in droves on APC like the regional forums do. |
I understand the complaints. Things need to change. We're way behind in almost every way compared to the big 4. But just to add a little perspective for the prospective, I've been here 3.5 years have 1000 guys under me, sit 50% in base in seat, and have grossed over $130k year to date. Not an awful living. Granted if I were at United or Delta that number would be larger. But we're working on that.
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Originally Posted by rvr1800
(Post 2265186)
Not an awful living.
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Originally Posted by Std Deviation
(Post 2265155)
Me too. I'm conflicted. The jury is still out for me. Do I dislike it here? No. Could it be better? Sure. To what degree, who knows. But it could also be better elsewhere. Unless you're running your own company, it's still going to work and there's no perfect company. Personally I don't want to be number 12,000 on a seniority list. I've been burned on career moves and I'm very cautious. I sense a repeal of the 1500 hr ATP, age 67, and an economic downturn. I guess it's gambling. Roll the dice and try for a legacy for more pay or relish the two year buffer I have here. I know too much about statistics, psychology, and human nature for my own good. I consider risk over reward. Again, just me.
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Originally Posted by sidestep
(Post 2265064)
$50 total, for all eligible dependents for a year.. I've had DL benefits since '08, and I've never seen a per person charge.
Maybe the deal at my last carrier sucked more than other regionals. But it wasn't just $50 at my shop. |
Originally Posted by IH8ROADS
(Post 2265168)
I agree with the original posts point. Let's make this place great. Let's not cave into a crap CBA. Let's not be treated less than we are worth.
Lets be fair the applicants that have JB as their #1 as I did, because they may live in a domicile and don't want to fly 5 legs a day in an md88 or 737. Grass isn't always greener. I'll take the free uniform over having to pay close to $1000 for a descent one. I'll cross seat belts when I nonrev because I'll more than likely not be #46 on the standby list for a flight that's oversold buy 20. I'm crossing seat belts, if I have time, to help the inflight because I care more about them than I do screwing managment. I'm really happy here for now and what the future holds. A new CBA will change my views for sure. I won't complain if it's bad, I'll just leave. If it's great I'll be super pumped and hope to retire from a company called JetBlue Airways. Negotiations suck, I'm optimistic the majority of our pilot group is strong willed and we just doesn't complain in droves on APC like the regional forums do. My point exactly. We need a CBA, but this place isn't bad. I think most of the negativity is from people that would complain no matter where they are. Me being positive about JetBlue does not mean that I will vote yes to a mediocre CBA. |
Originally Posted by rvr1800
(Post 2265186)
I understand the complaints. Things need to change. We're way behind in almost every way compared to the big 4. But just to add a little perspective for the prospective, I've been here 3.5 years have 1000 guys under me, sit 50% in base in seat, and have grossed over $130k year to date. Not an awful living. Granted if I were at United or Delta that number would be larger. But we're working on that.
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Originally Posted by Std Deviation
(Post 2265191)
130K is over twice the median income in the US. Yep, I get it: responsible for people's lives. So is the guy that welded the hull together on the cruise ship. Well trained? Highly educated? So are physicians assistants that make 70-100K and work 40-50 hrs a week. Perspective.
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Originally Posted by capt707
(Post 2265226)
Do you live in base or commute? How much do you usually credit/days off?
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Originally Posted by capt707
(Post 2265226)
Do you live in base or commute? How much do you usually credit/days off?
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