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Originally Posted by BeatNavy (Post 2378190)

Or they drag it out until we get bought/buy someone and have to restart JCBA negotiations, or, get drug through mediation and then they require a long implementation period for things like vacation. This current system bid is evidence they aren't planning on needing to do anything about it anytime soon. I had stopped updating my apps to go to a real airline, was getting more positive about this place after talking to a couple NC guys, was going to move to FL, but now, I'm going to try to bail. I wish in retrospect I had stayed at my bottom feeder regional and just got some 121 TPIC, as I could have upgraded right when I got hired here. Took an unnecessary pay cut to come here thinking it was a good career move. Oh well. I guess if I don't get a call from a legacy this isn't the worst place to be. But it sure seems to be moving that direction.

Well the bid is for December. Even if we had a TA by the end of the summer we wouldn't need the captains (for the cba)yet. I know I'm a juicer but I don't think I would be making a decision on that bid(yes I know all of the other stuff) but that bid has nothing to do with a cba. The company also has the ability to put out a supplemental bid if need be.

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Originally Posted by pilotpayne (Post 2378216)

Im with ya on all of this, but where do they get the meat for the seats? They refuse to adequately staff and they cant ramp it up on a dime.
I would expect full classes if they anticipated a CBA by years end.
Btw- I dont think youre a juicer;)

It amazes me how short of memories we have as pilots. Every 10 years there are downturns, we are on the footsteps now. Sorry but they're gonna lowball us, we reject it, they drag it out, downturn happens, hence the reason they're worried about adding "meat", threaten or actually furlough and then use pilots on the street as leverage for their final CBA. It's been in the playbook for decades.

Yeah the place is going the tube quick but they're still making way more money by avoiding the problems rather than paying to fix the problems.

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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot (Post 2378282)

If I was to guess this cba will be phased in. I can see pay 401k and benifits right away "day 1"
But I assume scheduling and other parts will need time to be implemented. It's no joke we are looking at a total change in the way the company staffs and schedules its pilots.
But if you come out with industry standard pay or better I think you will still be able to find guys.
But again only a guess.
I didn't expect this bid to have anything to do with the CBA.
But I do agree we are super short pilots, now if guys wouldn't pick up RSAs but that is a different thread.

A new cba would define fly be phased in. Especially a brand new first time cba. I have a feeling it would take a year to get everything in.

So no more 40 minute call outs on reserve?

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Originally Posted by Xtreme87 (Post 2378461)

So no more 40 minute call outs on reserve?

Repeat after me.

I need the full two hours.

As you know their problem is not your problem. :)

Video.......WTF? Lemmings.....

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Originally Posted by pilotpayne (Post 2378512)

Repeat after me.

I need the full two hours.

As you know their problem is not your problem. :)

I usually do a hair under 2 hours just so I can get short term parking. Can't beat walking from the car to the terminal. I do love it when they just automatically expect you to show up in 40 minutes and don't even ask.

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Originally Posted by Xtreme87 (Post 2378598)

LoL I do a hair over two just to get short term!