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WhiteHammer 01-16-2017 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by full of luv (Post 2282128)
Exactly.... the original poster left the story back in 2007....that UAL '00 hire (while admittedly having a rocky path) should be currently sitting in pretty good shape.

Yeah, after 18 years of making 60K tops and being furloughed. But I guess having that sweet contract for the last 10 years of his career makes up for the 100K plus a year he lost for almost 2 decades.

jacjetlag 01-16-2017 05:43 PM

What ever happened to your guy who said, "Dandy Day" on frequency changes?

Did he go to UAL?

CaptCoolHand 01-17-2017 05:09 AM


Originally Posted by BlueJuicer17 (Post 2282650)
You should be happy you have a job and not demand more $ or better benefits. You should carry your own personal blue latex gloves too.

They're starting the new clean plane initiative as well. RSV pilots will be called in to wash and wax the outside of the planes now. Also the Mx apprentice program gateway 10 will be interviewing shortly. This is where pilots get to shadow short staffed maintenance ops in order to fix aircraft at outstations while earning your A&P.

hilltopflyer 01-17-2017 07:54 AM

Hey I'll be an oncall mx at an outstation. My buddy down in mobile is one and he charges $500 just for him to pick up the phone. He makes so much money (lone mx for all the airlines in mobile)

CaptCoolHand 01-17-2017 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by hilltopflyer (Post 2282974)
Hey I'll be an oncall mx at an outstation. My buddy down in mobile is one and he charges $500 just for him to pick up the phone. He makes so much money (lone mx for all the airlines in mobile)

LOL, no no no... you'll be doing it as part of your RSV guarantee. Efficiencies. You have to sacrifice to work here.
Profit above all.
Savety is our number one.

Std Deviation 01-17-2017 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by hilltopflyer (Post 2282974)
Hey I'll be an oncall mx at an outstation. My buddy down in mobile is one and he charges $500 just for him to pick up the phone. He makes so much money (lone mx for all the airlines in mobile)

We had a write up at an outstation on Christmas Day. What do you think that paid??? $$$$$$

BeeWatcher 01-17-2017 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by WhiteHammer (Post 2282721)
Yeah, after 18 years of making 60K tops and being furloughed. But I guess having that sweet contract for the last 10 years of his career makes up for the 100K plus a year he lost for almost 2 decades.

The myth of the furloughed pilot flipping burgers, going back as a supermarket clerk or toiling for years at a regional is mostly untrue. These were talented people. Most of the 20 plus double furloughees I have flown with over the last five or so years seemed to have landed on their feet and done surprisingly well. Many went back full time into the military (at a time of record military pay), some landed in a good corporate gig, one was at FAA headquarters, several went to defense contractors, and a few went to Spirit and JetBlue. Most were holding their own vs. the typical airline pilot of that lost decade. Many were doing so well (or maybe where a little gun shy) that when United started recalling it was initially only a trickle of returning pilots. After several pay bumps, a giant cushion of new hires and a good contract with furlough longevity credit, most came back. I rarely fly with them anymore as most have moved on to the greener pastures of Widebody or Captain flying...

WhiteHammer 01-17-2017 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by BeeWatcher (Post 2283117)
The myth of the furloughed pilot flipping burgers, going back as a supermarket clerk or toiling for years at a regional is mostly untrue. These were talented people. Most of the 20 plus double furloughees I have flown with over the last five or so years seemed to have landed on their feet and done surprisingly well. Many went back full time into the military (at a time of record military pay), some landed in a good corporate gig, one was at FAA headquarters, several went to defense contractors, and a few went to Spirit and JetBlue. Most were holding their own vs. the typical airline pilot of that lost decade. Many were doing so well (or maybe where a little gun shy) that when United started recalling it was initially only a trickle of returning pilots. After several pay bumps, a giant cushion of new hires and a good contract with furlough longevity credit, most came back. I rarely fly with them anymore as most have moved on to the greener pastures of Widebody or Captain flying...

Cool story.

Winston 01-17-2017 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by WhiteHammer (Post 2282721)
Yeah, after 18 years of making 60K tops and being furloughed. But I guess having that sweet contract for the last 10 years of his career makes up for the 100K plus a year he lost for almost 2 decades.

As you say, "Cool story." But that leans heavily on not letting facts get in the way of a good story.

Whatever you need to tell yourself to feel good about the decisions you've made, AMIRIGHT?

rvr1800 01-18-2017 04:58 AM


Originally Posted by Winston (Post 2283419)
As you say, "Cool story." But that leans heavily on not letting facts get in the way of a good story.

Whatever you need to tell yourself to feel good about the decisions you've made, AMIRIGHT?

Not defending WhiteHammer but who's to say you're not doing the exact same thing? Sure you can say today that being a United pilot is superior to being a JetBlue pilot but could you say that even 5 years ago? 10 years ago? No. You or I don't know what the future brings to either pilot group. We're far behind the United contract yes. But we're still negotiating our first contract in the history of our airline. We've always had a steep hill to climb. We're only part of the way there too. We've still got a long road ahead of us. Patience is very important right now. We cannot have pilots, especially JetBlue pilots, arguing with each other. We need to remain "United" and push for the contract we deserve.


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