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Originally Posted by rvr1800
(Post 2283518)
Not defending WhiteHammer but who's to say you're not doing the exact same thing? Sure you can say today that being a United pilot is superior to being a JetBlue pilot but could you say that even 5 years ago? 10 years ago? No. You or I don't know what the future brings to either pilot group. We're far behind the United contract yes. But we're still negotiating our first contract in the history of our airline. We've always had a steep hill to climb. We're only part of the way there too. We've still got a long road ahead of us. Patience is very important right now. We cannot have pilots, especially JetBlue pilots, arguing with each other. We need to remain "United" and push for the contract we deserve.
I guess it's a free country. Yes yes yet another thread about how much JetBlue sucks just what we need |
Originally Posted by pilotpayne
(Post 2283590)
I always wonder why United guys are bothering with a JetBlue thread....it's not like they are coming here. That's like me going to my old regional forum and giving those guys a hard time.
I guess it's a free country. Yes yes yet another thread about how much JetBlue sucks just what we need |
Originally Posted by Std Deviation
(Post 2283631)
It's for the blue chips. Everyone loves blue chips.
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
(Post 2283590)
I always wonder why United guys are bothering with a JetBlue thread....it's not like they are coming here. That's like me going to my old regional forum and giving those guys a hard time.
I guess it's a free country. Yes yes yet another thread about how much JetBlue sucks just what we need |
Originally Posted by N311JB
(Post 2283634)
Well maybe because we're in the major section and those guys want us to succeed. It's like your big brother or buddies busting balls all the time. Yeah it sucks for awhile, but later you look back and realize it's exactly what you needed to get in gear
Let me introduce you to your brother BeeWatcher
Originally Posted by BeeWatcher
(Post 2260202)
I'm glad you're drinking the kool-aid with your substandard, regional airline contract...were you one of the lucky bus boys who became a JetBlue pilot?
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Originally Posted by rvr1800
(Post 2283518)
Not defending WhiteHammer but who's to say you're not doing the exact same thing? Sure you can say today that being a United pilot is superior to being a JetBlue pilot but could you say that even 5 years ago? 10 years ago? No. You or I don't know what the future brings to either pilot group. We're far behind the United contract yes. But we're still negotiating our first contract in the history of our airline. We've always had a steep hill to climb. We're only part of the way there too. We've still got a long road ahead of us. Patience is very important right now. We cannot have pilots, especially JetBlue pilots, arguing with each other. We need to remain "United" and push for the contract we deserve.
What some guys don't understand is, it wasn't that long ago that a L-UAL widebody CA/FO that's maxed out made LESS than an JB 190 CA/FO makes now. And while UAL/CAL were busy with the merger, DAL was light years ahead of them. It's called "pattern bargaining", many don't seem to understand the concept..... |
Originally Posted by John Carr
(Post 2283662)
Pretty much.
What some guys don't understand is, it wasn't that long ago that a L-UAL widebody CA/FO that's maxed out made LESS than an JB 190 CA/FO makes now. And while UAL/CAL were busy with the merger, DAL was light years ahead of them. It's called "pattern bargaining", many don't seem to understand the concept..... |
Originally Posted by John Carr
(Post 2283662)
Pretty much.
What some guys don't understand is, it wasn't that long ago that a L-UAL widebody CA/FO that's maxed out made LESS than an JB 190 CA/FO makes now. And while UAL/CAL were busy with the merger, DAL was light years ahead of them. It's called "pattern bargaining", many don't seem to understand the concept..... |
Originally Posted by Rascal
(Post 2283779)
They had a concessionary contract back then. It is apples and oranges compassion. Let's not forget the E190 pay rates at JetBlue just a few years ago.
But if you got em, throw up the old/pre current PEA rates and you can see how not even they sucked (that bad) compared to L-UAL's BK rates. |
Originally Posted by N311JB
(Post 2283634)
Well maybe because we're in the major section and those guys want us to succeed. It's like your big brother or buddies busting balls all the time. Yeah it sucks for awhile, but later you look back and realize it's exactly what you needed to get in gear
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