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Old 01-20-2020, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MoarAlpha View Post
ETOPs is now complete on the 767. The schedule may change a bit due to this.
Are all 767's ETOPS or just some of them? Destinations announced? Crew rest modifications and catering? Thanks guys
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Old 01-20-2020, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dba74 View Post
Are all 767's ETOPS or just some of them? Destinations announced? Crew rest modifications and catering? Thanks guys
I don't know the details of which airframes are approved or how that works. ETOPs approved in our Ops Specs for the 767.
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Old 01-20-2020, 02:22 PM
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Thanks jhugz!! Honestly that still sounds a helluva better than commuting for regional reserve with min days off (11 days) and commuting on a lot of those days off...

anyway, can i hope for any dfw overnights? Lol
unfortunately not right now...we go through DFW and “overnight” in SAT.
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Old 01-20-2020, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dba74 View Post
Are all 767's ETOPS or just some of them? Destinations announced? Crew rest modifications and catering? Thanks guys
Just two of them. No planned routes as of now, some possible charters. Catering per the CBA and no crew rest mods as of right now.
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Old 01-20-2020, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jhugz View Post
Just two of them. No planned routes as of now, some possible charters. Catering per the CBA and no crew rest mods as of right now.
Do the 767s have chillers or some sort of galley?
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Old 01-20-2020, 02:35 PM
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Do the 767s have chillers or some sort of galley?
coolers and microwaves with a coffee maker
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Old 01-20-2020, 05:15 PM
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What about rest facilities?
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Old 01-20-2020, 06:03 PM
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What about rest facilities?
Not sure what their plans are, or if we will fly any routes that long, but none as of right now.
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Old 01-20-2020, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jhugz View Post
We missed you complaining about the schedules this month...berating a potential recruit is a solid way to make up for that though and to expect more from you is honestly a stretch.

As for something more productive for pilots that aren't better suited flying for a regional...

The 767 schedules are mostly night hub flying. Most of the time we don't sit through the sort with possibly a couple exceptions a rotation. You leave around 5 am local from CVG...get to the outstation anywhere for 7 to 11 CVG time...get rest at the outstation...then fly back to be back in CVG around 1-2 AM the next day. You then usually have off until the morning departure the next day. Sprinkle in some reserve days instead of flying and that's a normal rotation.

As for the new schedules they're a work in progress that still need some tuning. They're 12 day schedules where you sit through the sort every night and then fly out to the outstation. You only get rest at the outstation. You airline in on Sunday night and then back home Saturday night. It's a brutal schedule but it cuts down the total days out by quite a bit. We are looking at fatigue mitigation strategies for these pairing as they're brutal.
That’s actually alot better than I thought it’d be. Fdx/ups/abx etc sit for the sort. I’ve done it and it IS brutal. Hitting the hotel in CVG would be a huge improvement on that.
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Old 01-21-2020, 05:24 AM
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That’s actually alot better than I thought it’d be. Fdx/ups/abx etc sit for the sort. I’ve done it and it IS brutal. Hitting the hotel in CVG would be a huge improvement on that.
Our route structure is what makes this difficult. We don’t have many one leggers. One leg into the hub, sit for the sort, and then one leg out isn’t too bad. However for us it’s 2 legs in, and 2 legs out sometimes. At a minimum it’s three legs. Some of our two leggers are so long that it’s almost always min rest at the outstation. That’s the reason are compressed schedules are so hard.
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