Kalitta Air (K4) Information
08-23-2021, 11:09 AM
#3801
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2021
Position: Captain
Posts: 17
its all part of the process
Any interaction with anyone in K4 is part of the interview process, you can get called a day after you submit the application with an internal Rec letter or you can get called with no internal recommendations too. When K4 calls they screen and if they like what they hear, they tell you interview dates, the follow up email with hotel and what to bring for interview etc is very slow coming. The HR department is small and working flat out as the hiring is aggressive at the moment. I know I am saying " be patient" and yet follow up at the same time to confirm your interview date in YIP, but thats what needs to be done. also check you spam folders if you've received an offer to interview.
As for updating a 3 year old application, maybe re-apply with a different email or you could PM me some details and I could make an inquiry on your behalf on how to update an application.
and lastly working 12-15 days a month is not the same as 17 consecutive days away. the commute plus 16 days 'ON' Flying around the world at the moment consists of sitting in an airplane then getting escorted to HOTEL Lockdown. FULL STOP. The glamour and experience is not what it was pre-COVID. Hopefully it will change in the future but I doubt that is the case in the near term future.
As for updating a 3 year old application, maybe re-apply with a different email or you could PM me some details and I could make an inquiry on your behalf on how to update an application.
and lastly working 12-15 days a month is not the same as 17 consecutive days away. the commute plus 16 days 'ON' Flying around the world at the moment consists of sitting in an airplane then getting escorted to HOTEL Lockdown. FULL STOP. The glamour and experience is not what it was pre-COVID. Hopefully it will change in the future but I doubt that is the case in the near term future.
08-23-2021, 12:17 PM
#3802
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2011
Position: GIV
Posts: 106
Originally Posted by viking avenger
and lastly working 12-15 days a month is not the same as 17 consecutive days away. the commute plus 16 days 'ON' Flying around the world at the moment consists of sitting in an airplane then getting escorted to HOTEL Lockdown. FULL STOP. The glamour and experience is not what it was pre-COVID. Hopefully it will change in the future but I doubt that is the case in the near term future.
08-26-2021, 09:54 PM
#3803
New Hire
Joined APC: Aug 2021
Posts: 2
Interviewed Today
I was part of the interview group today. 17 pilots total. Rough breakdown was:
4 Regional Pilots
1 Corporate
6+ International Heavy (Emirates, Cathay, Qatar, Air Japan, etc)
5 + Domestic Cargo (National, Western Global, etc)
All had Boeing time except Regional/corporate and one Emirates Captain.
My opinion is the real interview takes place in the group waiting to be officially interviewed.(ie the briefing/question time with the pilot recruiters.)
It is a very laid back atmosphere and you are encouraged to ask any question you may have. I felt most answers given were unvarnished and truthful. The only "dodge" I saw was in reference to the local MEC and in fairness they said the union rep would present his/her pitch during Indoc. They really want to hire you so show some interest and you should be fine. The official interview with DFO (Bill) and HR (Laurie) is short and straight forward. 5-10 minutes max and expect at least 1 "curve ball" about your CV/application. No technical questions as they assume you know what you are doing and you will come out with a feeling of "did I pass?" That seemed to be the consensus. I have a some what respectable CV and was highly impressed by the caliber of applicants I saw today. It's good that they are still skimming cream with their recruiting.
As for the Compass exam the best things to study are basic algebra (manual long division) x and y equations, the Multi-tasking PFD sim and the short term memory quiz (paper can be used to record the numbers). No formulas other than percentages and Time/Speed/Distance. ATP questions were slightly skewed towards European ops (ie Kgs and 1 geographical weather question). Most questions referred to universal aviation philosophy.
In summary, be polite to ALL, be yourself, and be honest but remember you are always being watched. This was one of the best overall interview processes I've been through and look forward to joining the team!
P.S. No masks were required and everyone wore a full suit the whole time even though the room got a little warm. [First world problem
]
4 Regional Pilots
1 Corporate
6+ International Heavy (Emirates, Cathay, Qatar, Air Japan, etc)
5 + Domestic Cargo (National, Western Global, etc)
All had Boeing time except Regional/corporate and one Emirates Captain.
My opinion is the real interview takes place in the group waiting to be officially interviewed.(ie the briefing/question time with the pilot recruiters.)
It is a very laid back atmosphere and you are encouraged to ask any question you may have. I felt most answers given were unvarnished and truthful. The only "dodge" I saw was in reference to the local MEC and in fairness they said the union rep would present his/her pitch during Indoc. They really want to hire you so show some interest and you should be fine. The official interview with DFO (Bill) and HR (Laurie) is short and straight forward. 5-10 minutes max and expect at least 1 "curve ball" about your CV/application. No technical questions as they assume you know what you are doing and you will come out with a feeling of "did I pass?" That seemed to be the consensus. I have a some what respectable CV and was highly impressed by the caliber of applicants I saw today. It's good that they are still skimming cream with their recruiting.
As for the Compass exam the best things to study are basic algebra (manual long division) x and y equations, the Multi-tasking PFD sim and the short term memory quiz (paper can be used to record the numbers). No formulas other than percentages and Time/Speed/Distance. ATP questions were slightly skewed towards European ops (ie Kgs and 1 geographical weather question). Most questions referred to universal aviation philosophy.
In summary, be polite to ALL, be yourself, and be honest but remember you are always being watched. This was one of the best overall interview processes I've been through and look forward to joining the team!
P.S. No masks were required and everyone wore a full suit the whole time even though the room got a little warm. [First world problem
]
08-27-2021, 04:44 AM
#3804
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 258
Originally Posted by K4orBust
I was part of the interview group today. 17 pilots total. Rough breakdown was:
4 Regional Pilots
1 Corporate
6+ International Heavy (Emirates, Cathay, Qatar, Air Japan, etc)
5 + Domestic Cargo (National, Western Global, etc)
All had Boeing time except Regional/corporate and one Emirates Captain.
My opinion is the real interview takes place in the group waiting to be officially interviewed.(ie the briefing/question time with the pilot recruiters.)
It is a very laid back atmosphere and you are encouraged to ask any question you may have. I felt most answers given were unvarnished and truthful. The only "dodge" I saw was in reference to the local MEC and in fairness they said the union rep would present his/her pitch during Indoc. They really want to hire you so show some interest and you should be fine. The official interview with DFO (Bill) and HR (Laurie) is short and straight forward. 5-10 minutes max and expect at least 1 "curve ball" about your CV/application. No technical questions as they assume you know what you are doing and you will come out with a feeling of "did I pass?" That seemed to be the consensus. I have a some what respectable CV and was highly impressed by the caliber of applicants I saw today. It's good that they are still skimming cream with their recruiting.
As for the Compass exam the best things to study are basic algebra (manual long division) x and y equations, the Multi-tasking PFD sim and the short term memory quiz (paper can be used to record the numbers). No formulas other than percentages and Time/Speed/Distance. ATP questions were slightly skewed towards European ops (ie Kgs and 1 geographical weather question). Most questions referred to universal aviation philosophy.
In summary, be polite to ALL, be yourself, and be honest but remember you are always being watched. This was one of the best overall interview processes I've been through and look forward to joining the team!
P.S. No masks were required and everyone wore a full suit the whole time even though the room got a little warm. [First world problem]
4 Regional Pilots
1 Corporate
6+ International Heavy (Emirates, Cathay, Qatar, Air Japan, etc)
5 + Domestic Cargo (National, Western Global, etc)
All had Boeing time except Regional/corporate and one Emirates Captain.
My opinion is the real interview takes place in the group waiting to be officially interviewed.(ie the briefing/question time with the pilot recruiters.)
It is a very laid back atmosphere and you are encouraged to ask any question you may have. I felt most answers given were unvarnished and truthful. The only "dodge" I saw was in reference to the local MEC and in fairness they said the union rep would present his/her pitch during Indoc. They really want to hire you so show some interest and you should be fine. The official interview with DFO (Bill) and HR (Laurie) is short and straight forward. 5-10 minutes max and expect at least 1 "curve ball" about your CV/application. No technical questions as they assume you know what you are doing and you will come out with a feeling of "did I pass?" That seemed to be the consensus. I have a some what respectable CV and was highly impressed by the caliber of applicants I saw today. It's good that they are still skimming cream with their recruiting.
As for the Compass exam the best things to study are basic algebra (manual long division) x and y equations, the Multi-tasking PFD sim and the short term memory quiz (paper can be used to record the numbers). No formulas other than percentages and Time/Speed/Distance. ATP questions were slightly skewed towards European ops (ie Kgs and 1 geographical weather question). Most questions referred to universal aviation philosophy.
In summary, be polite to ALL, be yourself, and be honest but remember you are always being watched. This was one of the best overall interview processes I've been through and look forward to joining the team!
P.S. No masks were required and everyone wore a full suit the whole time even though the room got a little warm. [First world problem
]
08-27-2021, 06:07 PM
#3805
Line Holder
Joined APC: Apr 2019
Position: Seat 1 thru 4
Posts: 55
Originally Posted by K4orBust
I was part of the interview group today. 17 pilots total. Rough breakdown was:
4 Regional Pilots
1 Corporate
6+ International Heavy (Emirates, Cathay, Qatar, Air Japan, etc)
5 + Domestic Cargo (National, Western Global, etc)
All had Boeing time except Regional/corporate and one Emirates Captain.
My opinion is the real interview takes place in the group waiting to be officially interviewed.(ie the briefing/question time with the pilot recruiters.)
It is a very laid back atmosphere and you are encouraged to ask any question you may have. I felt most answers given were unvarnished and truthful. The only "dodge" I saw was in reference to the local MEC and in fairness they said the union rep would present his/her pitch during Indoc. They really want to hire you so show some interest and you should be fine. The official interview with DFO (Bill) and HR (Laurie) is short and straight forward. 5-10 minutes max and expect at least 1 "curve ball" about your CV/application. No technical questions as they assume you know what you are doing and you will come out with a feeling of "did I pass?" That seemed to be the consensus. I have a some what respectable CV and was highly impressed by the caliber of applicants I saw today. It's good that they are still skimming cream with their recruiting.
As for the Compass exam the best things to study are basic algebra (manual long division) x and y equations, the Multi-tasking PFD sim and the short term memory quiz (paper can be used to record the numbers). No formulas other than percentages and Time/Speed/Distance. ATP questions were slightly skewed towards European ops (ie Kgs and 1 geographical weather question). Most questions referred to universal aviation philosophy.
In summary, be polite to ALL, be yourself, and be honest but remember you are always being watched. This was one of the best overall interview processes I've been through and look forward to joining the team!
P.S. No masks were required and everyone wore a full suit the whole time even though the room got a little warm. [First world problem]
4 Regional Pilots
1 Corporate
6+ International Heavy (Emirates, Cathay, Qatar, Air Japan, etc)
5 + Domestic Cargo (National, Western Global, etc)
All had Boeing time except Regional/corporate and one Emirates Captain.
My opinion is the real interview takes place in the group waiting to be officially interviewed.(ie the briefing/question time with the pilot recruiters.)
It is a very laid back atmosphere and you are encouraged to ask any question you may have. I felt most answers given were unvarnished and truthful. The only "dodge" I saw was in reference to the local MEC and in fairness they said the union rep would present his/her pitch during Indoc. They really want to hire you so show some interest and you should be fine. The official interview with DFO (Bill) and HR (Laurie) is short and straight forward. 5-10 minutes max and expect at least 1 "curve ball" about your CV/application. No technical questions as they assume you know what you are doing and you will come out with a feeling of "did I pass?" That seemed to be the consensus. I have a some what respectable CV and was highly impressed by the caliber of applicants I saw today. It's good that they are still skimming cream with their recruiting.
As for the Compass exam the best things to study are basic algebra (manual long division) x and y equations, the Multi-tasking PFD sim and the short term memory quiz (paper can be used to record the numbers). No formulas other than percentages and Time/Speed/Distance. ATP questions were slightly skewed towards European ops (ie Kgs and 1 geographical weather question). Most questions referred to universal aviation philosophy.
In summary, be polite to ALL, be yourself, and be honest but remember you are always being watched. This was one of the best overall interview processes I've been through and look forward to joining the team!
P.S. No masks were required and everyone wore a full suit the whole time even though the room got a little warm. [First world problem
]Congratulations!!! Thanks for the info on your experience with the interview process. Kalitta is definitely the place I see myself at. Can you share your background? I’m guessing you got a call with a class date?
08-28-2021, 07:34 AM
#3806
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: CA 757/767
Posts: 109
Originally Posted by WhaleWrangler
9. If you like the union being in the pockets of the company and making back door deals, you will like it here.
10. If you like being put on reserve until late into your last day making you get home after midnight Z and not getting extra days pay, you will like it here.
11. If you like riding in the middle seat on commercial flights, you will like it here.
12. If you like doing scheduling's job because they keep trying to pull non contract / GOM / FAA compliant moves on you hoping you won't notice or question them, you will like it here.
There is a reason why many are leaving.
10. If you like being put on reserve until late into your last day making you get home after midnight Z and not getting extra days pay, you will like it here.
11. If you like riding in the middle seat on commercial flights, you will like it here.
12. If you like doing scheduling's job because they keep trying to pull non contract / GOM / FAA compliant moves on you hoping you won't notice or question them, you will like it here.
There is a reason why many are leaving.
Evidentially with the new ACARS software update, as soon as the last engine is shutdown the system blocks us in, it doesn’t matter when a door is opened. The deceiving part is you will not see this until they open a door, but when you look at the time on the clock it doesn’t match the ACARS time. Of course, there was nothing that came out to inform the flight crews about this new system, so let’s review what we don’t get paid for. We don’t get paid when we start engines in the blocks, we don’t get paid when we de-ice in the blocks, we don’t get paid when we sit on the ground waiting to be loaded which can take up to six hours, and now our pay stops as soon as we block in. Never mind we are still responsible for the aircraft and have not yet finished running checklists. It is now common to put in a 20-hour duty day and only be paid for eleven hours. Needless to say, we were all surprised and upset about this new development, and it is just one more slap in the face.
Might I suggest that if you are contemplating coming here, understand our contract does nothing to protect us. Our union leadership sold us a bill of goods with a promise to resolve the outstanding issues via MOU. Those of us that have been around for a while understood this was nonsense, but unfortunately enough people believed what they were told and blindly followed their advice.
08-28-2021, 08:33 AM
#3807
Pilot
Joined APC: Dec 2014
Position: Large cabin Bizjet
Posts: 448
Originally Posted by ex402dvr
I would like to add one more item to this list.
Evidentially with the new ACARS software update, as soon as the last engine is shutdown the system blocks us in, it doesn’t matter when a door is opened. The deceiving part is you will not see this until they open a door, but when you look at the time on the clock it doesn’t match the ACARS time. Of course, there was nothing that came out to inform the flight crews about this new system, so let’s review what we don’t get paid for. We don’t get paid when we start engines in the blocks, we don’t get paid when we de-ice in the blocks, we don’t get paid when we sit on the ground waiting to be loaded which can take up to six hours, and now our pay stops as soon as we block in. Never mind we are still responsible for the aircraft and have not yet finished running checklists. It is now common to put in a 20-hour duty day and only be paid for eleven hours. Needless to say, we were all surprised and upset about this new development, and it is just one more slap in the face.
Evidentially with the new ACARS software update, as soon as the last engine is shutdown the system blocks us in, it doesn’t matter when a door is opened. The deceiving part is you will not see this until they open a door, but when you look at the time on the clock it doesn’t match the ACARS time. Of course, there was nothing that came out to inform the flight crews about this new system, so let’s review what we don’t get paid for. We don’t get paid when we start engines in the blocks, we don’t get paid when we de-ice in the blocks, we don’t get paid when we sit on the ground waiting to be loaded which can take up to six hours, and now our pay stops as soon as we block in. Never mind we are still responsible for the aircraft and have not yet finished running checklists. It is now common to put in a 20-hour duty day and only be paid for eleven hours. Needless to say, we were all surprised and upset about this new development, and it is just one more slap in the face.
08-28-2021, 11:07 AM
#3808
Polyester Pilot
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: 777 CA
Posts: 510
Originally Posted by ex402dvr
I would like to add one more item to this list.
Evidentially with the new ACARS software update, as soon as the last engine is shutdown the system blocks us in, it doesn’t matter when a door is opened. The deceiving part is you will not see this until they open a door, but when you look at the time on the clock it doesn’t match the ACARS time. Of course, there was nothing that came out to inform the flight crews about this new system, so let’s review what we don’t get paid for. We don’t get paid when we start engines in the blocks, we don’t get paid when we de-ice in the blocks, we don’t get paid when we sit on the ground waiting to be loaded which can take up to six hours, and now our pay stops as soon as we block in. Never mind we are still responsible for the aircraft and have not yet finished running checklists. It is now common to put in a 20-hour duty day and only be paid for eleven hours. Needless to say, we were all surprised and upset about this new development, and it is just one more slap in the face.
Might I suggest that if you are contemplating coming here, understand our contract does nothing to protect us. Our union leadership sold us a bill of goods with a promise to resolve the outstanding issues via MOU. Those of us that have been around for a while understood this was nonsense, but unfortunately enough people believed what they were told and blindly followed their advice.
Evidentially with the new ACARS software update, as soon as the last engine is shutdown the system blocks us in, it doesn’t matter when a door is opened. The deceiving part is you will not see this until they open a door, but when you look at the time on the clock it doesn’t match the ACARS time. Of course, there was nothing that came out to inform the flight crews about this new system, so let’s review what we don’t get paid for. We don’t get paid when we start engines in the blocks, we don’t get paid when we de-ice in the blocks, we don’t get paid when we sit on the ground waiting to be loaded which can take up to six hours, and now our pay stops as soon as we block in. Never mind we are still responsible for the aircraft and have not yet finished running checklists. It is now common to put in a 20-hour duty day and only be paid for eleven hours. Needless to say, we were all surprised and upset about this new development, and it is just one more slap in the face.
Might I suggest that if you are contemplating coming here, understand our contract does nothing to protect us. Our union leadership sold us a bill of goods with a promise to resolve the outstanding issues via MOU. Those of us that have been around for a while understood this was nonsense, but unfortunately enough people believed what they were told and blindly followed their advice.
08-28-2021, 11:31 AM
#3809
New Hire
Joined APC: Aug 2021
Posts: 2
October 15 747 class
Originally Posted by Boeingthere
Congratulations!!! Thanks for the info on your experience with the interview process. Kalitta is definitely the place I see myself at. Can you share your background? I’m guessing you got a call with a class date?
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