Goose Lives

Thank you, most of the 74 or 777 guys consider us merely a joke when many of us had zero choice what aircraft we were assigned upon getting the offer. I’ve often been laughed off or disregarded in the van when asked and mentioning I was on the 76 which has been more reasons for me to realize this is not where I want to be.

Unfortunately no South America overnights and that flying is gone starting early next month so no more escaping the hub for some.

Goose Lives

Thank you, most of the 74 or 777 guys I’ve ran into consider us merely a joke when many of us had zero choice what aircraft we were assigned upon getting the offer. Over the last couple years I’ve been here I’ve often been laughed off or disregarded in the van when asked and mentioning I was on the 76 which has only been more reasons for me to realize this is not where I want to be.

Unfortunately no South America overnights and that flying is gone starting early next month so no more escaping the hub for some.

East Aspen Dash

sorry to hear that, I’ve never heard of anyone on the 76 being chided, only lauded for a fantastic effort!

RyeMex

Does K4 not have any sort of rig or soft pay in your CBA that would allow you to credit more than block?

Locke

there really isn’t much in the way of soft pay or rigs. You are paid for flight, reserve, DH, OT days, and covid tests. That’s about it.

So if you have a nice 14 hour flight, but it gets stolen by training and you get reassigned to a short trip there’s no recourse. Their excuse is you get min guarantee, so deal with it.

fr8ghtdawg

We have line guarantee. Rig is not added to block, It is a separate calculation that is based on time away from base (we don't have trip rig). We also get paid 4.0 pch per day for reserve days, or if off our line.

baba70

well…. That really sucks!
So what is the attraction to work here outside of been Home based?

fr8ghtdawg

Don't, You are too good to be there! Good luck!!

Whalehunter

Would have been nice if this was in our latest contract. But oooohhhh shiny penny.

newb2

To be honest there isn’t any, here are just a few examples of what life is like working at Kalitta. If you are working at a regional, this is a place to get some heavy time before moving on to greener pastures. The pay is good, but you have zero control over your life, and will work like a dog. If you are really considering a supplemental, consider Atlas, at least you have some work rules, and when you go into China you will be compensated 1.75 hours for your entire days flight. At Kalitta you get ZERO extra pay, and when you sit on the ground waiting to be loaded in China, your ground time will be between 3 to 8 hours, where you get nothing toward your guarantee.

From an earlier post

1. If you like working a 17-plus hour day as the new norm you will like it here.
2. If you like only getting min rest after working an extend duty day, you will like it here.
3. If you like not having any control of your schedule, you will like it here.
4. If you like getting 6% into your retirement account with no matching income from the company, you will like it here.
5. If you like the arbitrary 72-hour rule concerning your travel request, you will like it here.
6. If you like the new policy of crewmembers losing their hotel points, you will like it here.
7. If you like the smug attitude from management concerning this new contract, you will like it here.
8. If you like coming out to the aircraft and having a loading delay, maintenance problem, starting engines in the blocks, de-icing the aircraft, or perhaps you are sitting on the ground at an intermediate stop with zero compensation, you will like it here. Yes you read that correctly, we do not get paid when we start engines or de-ice sitting in the blocks, the aircraft must move two knots before we are on the clock.
9. If you like the union being in the pockets of the company and making back door deals, you will like it here.
10. If you like being put on reserve until late into your last day making you get home after midnight Z and not getting extra days pay, you will like it here.
11. If you like riding in the middle seat on commercial flights, you will like it here.
12. If you like doing scheduling's job because they keep trying to pull non contract / GOM / FAA compliant moves on you hoping you won't notice or question them, you will like it here.