Kalitta Air now accepting FO applications
07-08-2018, 08:32 AM
#4341
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Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 299
Originally Posted by nitefr8dog
I guess I am taking about what you are earning today! Silly me. Why stop there? Let's pick a number you might get on your next contract and use that to compare to everyone else?
I was very vocal about staying with Teamsters, but I definitely understand the "other side" that wanted to leave when people from other 1224 airlines want to trash and pick apart pieces of our contract to make yourself feel better working at crappy wages.
Yes our retirement needs a lot of work...Yes I'd like to see shorter duty days...Yes I'd like to see better contract language throughout...etc...
However it's about diminishing returns. The pilot group signed an industry leading ACMI contract in a lot of areas. You're not going to get everything in one contract and the pilot group could still be sitting here today on the old contract trying to demand a little more. Instead we're 1.5 years into this contract and will begin negotiating our next contract in a couple years.
07-08-2018, 08:40 AM
#4342
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Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 835
Originally Posted by nitefr8dog
I guess I am taking about what you are earning today! Silly me. Why stop there? Let's pick a number you might get on your next contract and use that to compare to everyone else?
07-08-2018, 02:56 PM
#4343
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
Position: Heavy
Posts: 187
Originally Posted by nitefr8dog
Big deal....some of our guys never went to work at all except to go in the sim for bounces every 90 days. Not because of long flights with few landings..it was because they had not been inside an airplane. One guy used to bid 15 days OT..max out his 100hrs flying the OT then take the rest of the month off. Double pay working 15 days a month. For 15yrs I flew a DC9 to my home city everyday and slept at home in my own bed instead of using the hotel..and got per diem. I was home in my house 30 days a month! Nobody cares what you used to do.I know a new hire in 2016/17 when we were 100 crewmembers short and added 10 aircraft for Amazon that never worked a single day of OT on probation! I say again ...our system is different than everybody else's. After 6 days JRM for the yr...you get the premium pay and the day back. You can work 5, 10, 15 days a month at premium pay and still have the same number of days off. This was negotiated in our last contract not as a way to increase our pay but as a penalty to the company if they do not staff the airline correctly. Which they still have no idea of how to do.
07-09-2018, 03:55 AM
#4344
VHR-very happily retired
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Retired
Posts: 1,413
Originally Posted by nitefr8dog
Big deal....some of our guys never went to work at all except to go in the sim for bounces every 90 days. Not because of long flights with few landings..it was because they had not been inside an airplane.
07-09-2018, 07:35 AM
#4345
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,829
Originally Posted by 727C47
He’s an ABX guy ? I thought he was Giant , and HE is trashing K4 ??? Shut my mouth, and shake my head , LOL oh boy talk about glass houses ...ABX ? word ... : D
07-09-2018, 07:39 AM
#4346
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,829
Originally Posted by maxjet
What ever happened to the concept of “I like flying airplanes?” Why are some people so happy ripping off the company and not going to work? I have a great life at home but I also have a great career. One enhances the other. You seem quite unhappy and sad. Perhaps if you had more purpose to your life?
07-09-2018, 07:49 AM
#4347
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Posts: 1,829
Originally Posted by Locke
And if you break it down even further the difference is 3.1 cents per second. Who cares? You can sit there all day and divide things down to absurd levels but it won’t accomplish anything. Go work through the union and negotiate the contract that you want.
Complaining and putting other pilot groups down on here does absoltely nothing other than cause animosity between everyone else and you. Not ABX. Not 1224. You.
Complaining and putting other pilot groups down on here does absoltely nothing other than cause animosity between everyone else and you. Not ABX. Not 1224. You.
What's the point of putting lipstick on a pig? Is that not the point of a forum? Or should I only say what you want to hear? It's a great contract you guys rocked it!. Reality is you settled because the previous contract was so bad this looked hugh...could nd should have been a lot better. Now the real whipsawing will really be able to start. We are seeing it now.
Last edited by nitefr8dog; 07-09-2018 at 08:19 AM.
07-09-2018, 10:06 AM
#4349
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Joined APC: Feb 2017
Position: F/O
Posts: 37
Does anyone know if you drive a rental car to reposition if its paid at 100% I was told recently by a captain that it was but haven't been able to find proof anywhere. All the contract talks about is limo service etc.
07-09-2018, 10:10 AM
#4350
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: 747
Posts: 69
Well to get this thread back on track I was just offered an interview on July 31st and I for one am very excited to have the chance to join the K4 family. Anyone who has recently interviewed and been offered a class date, how far out are they putting people into classes?
Also if anyone else has or gets an interview for July 31st and wants to touch base before the interview feel free to PM me. Looking forward to this opportunity.
Also if anyone else has or gets an interview for July 31st and wants to touch base before the interview feel free to PM me. Looking forward to this opportunity.
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