USMCFLYR

No - it is that the message is so one-sided. You sound like one of those extremists - pounding their version of the truth over and over. I don't agree with extremists of any variety. You could reach so many more people if you were a moderate....but I think that you like the moniker of nay-sayer. I try to encourage your posts when you can share a different perspective with a little bit of balance (which isn't often unfortunately)
When you degrade people who have chosen this professional on a forum made for professional pilots then yes - I do have a problem with the tone of your posts.

USMCFLYR

contrails

He is a one-sided extremist.

Heck, he even describes a transcon flight as "being strabbed to a chair in a metal tube for five hours." That quote is verbatim.

Strapped to a chair in a metal tube for five hours. Well, that's about all I need to know about how it was to fly a four-day trip with SkyHigh at National Airlines.

SkyHigh

I know that my approach seems abrasive to most in this forums. However I do not think it is my attitude as much as the opinions I represent. My aim is not to inspire agitation but to make a point as cleanly and honest as I can. If I had 20 minutes in conversation to gently develop a position then perhaps I could be less direct.

My posts are nothing less than a carefully measured response to what I receive from the opposition. This is a forum after all. A place to share ideas and exchange healthy debate. I always try to attack the idea exclusively and not to belittle the people who hold it. I am sorry if I have missed that mark.

Everyone's position is one sided, their own. How am I supposed to be any different?

Skyhigh

SkyHigh

It was the worst to be stuck in that boredom tube for gloomy hour on end. Have you done that kind of time yet?

Skyhigh

USMCFLYR

Sky -

You have had 3,842 posts to "gently develop a position" but I seriously think that you enjoy agitating people.
I'm not as adept at finding your own quotes Sky - but you know as well as I that you have generally belittled the PERSON AND PEOPLE who hold an opposite view of the aviation industry than you. Recently I called on you for calling a whole pilot's group "self-sacrificing" and one of the most outrageous things that you have said is that someone is [not taking care of their family] because they had chosen a career in aviation.
I don't knwo if it is your opinions that you present that get to others on this forums. It isn't for me - it is absolutely your delivery and your one track mind.
What you call the "opposition" here Sky are usually people who want a future in professional aviation or have a successful career in aviation. If people were to view posts side by side - they would find that those you call the opposition encourage people in the industry while honestly warning them of the dangers and pitfalls. they never present the idea that everyone is going to make it to the top or be successful. You on the otherhand NEVER say anything encouraging and once even said that you don't have a single encouraging thing to say about the industry.
You should go into politics Sky. You would be right at home with one party or another's single minded message no matter what the truth.
It is ashame though - you could be a source of great information if it wasn't so bias; but you'll find some that buy it.

USMCFLYR

de727ups

"My posts are nothing less than a carefully measured response to what I receive from the opposition."

Really? Is that why you feel the need to start a new thread every 4 to 5 days?

"the opposition" wouldn't bother with you if it wasn't for your silly new threads all the time. Honestly, I have better things to do....but I just can't resist the need to refute your stuff. So here I am....

Sky, if you really wanted to "educate the masses", you'd have link at jetcareers telling your story just like I do. I've offered you the chance to do it repeatedly and yet you decline.

I think Skyhigh just likes seeing his name on here and seeing people respond to his posts. It's good entertainment. Nothing more.

TonyMontana

I doubt you'd be waving the flag in such a determined manner if you were trying to support a family on a regional pilot salary. You should get yourself one of those jobs sometime-then your view (and your defense) wouldn't be as misinformed as it is.

Learflyer

727, this isn't the only forum with people wanting to get out. JC has one going on right now. not a seperate forum, but there is a thread or two. You know I try and help guys who want questions answered about this career, and I think you know that. My career track and (not so good luck) resembles Sky's to extreme parallels. It's ALL luck and who you know. it's about the good decisions, and bad decisions. I'm not saying i've made bad decisions, but timing and luck was not on my side career wise. I do have a large house with a beautiful wife.

How can we tell our personal stories without getting lambasted (sp)? I've got several stories of family members and friends who've had Sky and My luck.

contrails

Yes I have.

If you can't tolerate 4-5 hours in an airplane you're just not meant for that type of flying, period.

Those than enjoy the airline flying can make conversation with the pilot sitting next to them, or if that other pilot is on the quiet side there are still other things to do besides monitoring the flight itself.

Boredom tube. Ha. That's my point, you look at airline flying from a negative perspective no matter what part of it you are talking about. I'm not going to fly a boredom tube later this afternoon; I am going to fly a plane that I enjoy flying with a great captain who I flew with a few weeks ago and the 7+42 we're blocked for all day will go by very fast I am certain.

I could sit there and be miserable. I choose not to.

de727ups

"How can we tell our personal stories without getting lambasted"

Everyone should tell their personal story. Nothing wrong with that. But do you come on and start a new pilot/career bashing thread every four days? It gets old and proves that such people have an agenda far beyond educating the masses.

There is a reason people are highly critical of Sky's posts, even at the "leaving the career" forum, where some of us "don't belong". There is a reason people aren't critical of Learflyers posts. Notice a difference?