DYNASTY HVY

Perhaps it's because we want to give balance to the negativity that arises when folks get into this business and find out that at times it's not all roses and rainbows .
Many of us do this out of love and the ability to excel at what we do best and not out of some sense of desperation as you so aptly put it and unfortunately some do fail at this for one reason or another as in any other occupation there are good and bad points.


Capt.J.F.Jimenez

tomgoodman

It's also for those who have not yet decided whether to stay or leave, and want information to help them make that decision. They deserve to hear both sides present arguments in a polite and professional manner. Some do this; others do not.

Rnav

Sorry most Cops don't work 16 hour days. 3/12's or 4/10's. Unless of course its for overtime. Being home daily is a big deal in a kids life. Whether its reading a book to your kid daily, or just being their to help your SO to say it doesn't matter that your not around daily is a naive. They're are terrible parents/people in all careers.

All professions in the end are jobs(including pilots). Just depends what type of person you are. If your job defines you you'll work yourself to death in ANY job. Now that I've worked both sides I can say they all require sacrifice to some extent or another. Difference between my flying job and being a cop? Retirement at 50 vs 65(flying). Both have inherent dangers of course. Just don't let your job define who you are, that's lame...

In all seriousness, the person that gets the most pleasure from a career such as flying(where your gone for a couple days at a time, job unstability, low pay, etc) is obviously the pilot. Kids, friends, and family don't care what you do for a living. They only care that your happy. They willingly accept your career choice because they want you to be happy. But what people need to ask themselves is are you willing to make that same sacrifice for what you love doing to make the people in your life happy? Would you give up a job if you knew your family/personal relationships would be safe, happier, stable if you did? Trust me, your kid and family really don't care that you have the best office view in the world.

USMCFLYR

Globe -

Maybe you missed the point that I am a mod on this board. Unfortunately - any reminders or infractions count as posts, so yeah - I have quite a few, plus I'm told that I can be a chatty cathy too.

I'm not sure how many times you can ask your questions and it can be answered, but since you only like ONE side of the story I suggest again that you start your own website. If you like to counter the 'cheerleaders' on here (of which you would be very hard pressed to find), then you will need to apply those tactics to the downers too - unless you are not interested in fairness other than your own viewpoint. If you think that ignoring one side of the story is a good thinkg to pass on to others reading this board then press on Globe, but those reading your words of advice should know where you stand too.

You still have yet to show me a single post where I "blow smoke". Since you don't want to search through my many posts, just look through posts in YOUR 'Lwaving the Career' forum and see if you can come up with one.

Funny you should post those pictures. Is that how you feel when you decide to SAVE people from a career in aviation?
Now. Let's see if you can keep to the discussion in your reply and argue or debate the point instead of trying to insult those that don't agree with you with internet fodder.

USMCFLYR

brianb

What are you? Ten? This post must have taken up most of your day. Apparently, research is not your strong point and I can only venture that you have been sipping the poison dispensed by the man commonly known as "Skyhigh". At least he makes some coherent points regarding the industry even though they are one sided and somewhat slanted. I hate to insult other people, but, you need help if this is the best you got. Happy Holidays to you.

USMCFLYR

I think I may have found one of those "cheerleaders" we often talk about.
Check out the second and third paragraphs.

That is one of the most optimistic outlooks I've seen in quite some time.
Of course he also says that the last 10 years has been the worse he has ever seen, so even that is a more balanced view than others portray.

To satisfy others on the forum, maybe this information will help others decide to ride out these current times in hopes that things will actually turn around in the timeline outlined in the interview. It would be a sad thing if some might actually be hopefully that it doesn't improve, even if they have left the career for greener pastures.

Knowledge is power. Come to the fight armed with all you get!
(That is about as 'smoke blowin' as I get )

USMCFLYR

Red Forman

Sky,

You always say how expensive it is to be in this profession, and if you are stupid and go to one of those expensive schools, then yes it is very expensive. Although, there are cheaper alternatives; my brother got a good education and became an engineer and I spent the same amount of money getting a degree and learning how to fly. Guess what, I am 25 and he is 27 and we are making about the same amount after we put in similar amounts as well.

The problem is people over extend themselves and don't live within their means. I know guys making $30,000 a year while raising a family that are doing better than guys pulling in $500,000 and also raising a family. I also forgot to mention that with my flying job I am home a lot and rarely have a layover, but I guess with your reasoning I am not a good family man because I work in the aviation field and am on occasion away from home.

ScaryKite

Mo money mo problems...im trading it all in for a simple life. I just put an offer on a nice little bungalow downtown in my hometown. Mortgage will be 610 a month, selling my car, buying a beater and am walking to my new job as a guitar instructor and playing shows two nights a week. will be poor forever but I will be happy.

Rama

That plan may not seem so appealing in 10 or 20 years.

Ski Patrol

No he is not talking about you. You are what most would call a "statistical outlier".